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Title: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: spiderboy on Monday 06 June 16 18:27 BST (UK)
When and where did she die?
Born 1892. Baptized 1st May at Swinton daughter of Henry Hetherington and Mary Jane Yates.
Married Harold Machin 1918. Harold died in 1937 and probate was granted to his widow Theodora Smith Machin. The Sheffield Independent carried an announcement of his death and a notification of the burial service. In 1939 she was shown as living alone at 37 Edale Road, Sheffield and 29th June 1942 jointly with her married sister Annie she was granted probate of her mother’s estate. She then seems to disappear.
Any thoughts or ideas of what became of her will be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: JJen on Monday 06 June 16 20:23 BST (UK)
Hi,

In 1957 Mrs Theodora Machin in still living at 37 Edale Road.

Source - Yorkshire, Sheffield & Rotherham, Kelly's Directory, 1957

In 1969 she is still living at 37 Edale Road

Source - Yorkshire, Sheffield & Rotherham, Kelly's Directory, 1969

JJ
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: JJen on Monday 06 June 16 20:56 BST (UK)
There is a T S Machin in the 1972 telephone book living at 37 Edale Road Sheffield.

Still cannot locate a death for this lady  ???

JJ
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: jennifer c on Tuesday 07 June 16 01:04 BST (UK)
St Mary Magdalene Woolwich 26/5/1890
Harry Hetherington Yates married Mary Jane Smith

On his army records he says he married Mary Jane Smith in a registry office  in 1892? died 18/5/1900 born 1864 Doncaster

Jennifer


Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: CuriousKat on Tuesday 07 June 16 18:27 BST (UK)
So she is listed as a beneficiary to her mothers estate along with her sister Annie Wood, wife of Reginald Smith Wood. In 1959 Reginald passes away and beneficiaries to his estate are Theodora Winifred Francis wife of Walter Charles Francis & Reginald paul yates Wood. I've had a quick look for Theodora Francis with no luck, but what are the odds?? Could be a wild goose chase?!
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: jennifer c on Tuesday 07 June 16 18:49 BST (UK)
A Reginald PY Wood married in Sheffield in 1959
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 07 June 16 19:14 BST (UK)
 
So she is listed as a beneficiary to her mothers estate along with her sister Annie Wood, wife of Reginald Smith Wood. In 1959 Reginald passes away and beneficiaries to his estate are Theodora Winifred Francis wife of Walter Charles Francis & Reginald paul yates Wood. I've had a quick look for Theodora Francis with no luck, but what are the odds?? Could be a wild goose chase?!

Death record -

Theodora Winifred Francis
Birth Date - 4 Oct 1923
Date of Registration - Jun 2004
Age at Death - 80
Registration district - Bury St Edmunds

This Theodora is much younger than Theodora Smith Machin. So not the same person.

JJ
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 07 June 16 20:26 BST (UK)
Probate record -

Theodora Smith Machin of 37 Edale Road Sheffield died 30 August 1972. Probate Sheffield 12 Oct, Effects - £15248.

Source - https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=machin&yearOfDeath=1972&page=2#calendar

So at least we now have a date for her death as per the probate record but no actual death record. Perhaps she didn't die in the UK  ???

JJ
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: jennifer c on Tuesday 07 June 16 21:52 BST (UK)
Brilliant find JJ.

Jennifer
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: JJen on Tuesday 07 June 16 21:54 BST (UK)
Brilliant find JJ.

Jennifer

Thank you.
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: spiderboy on Wednesday 08 June 16 14:16 BST (UK)
Very many thanks to you all for your interest and what a magnificent find by JJ, without you I’m not sure that I would ever have found Theodora’s death date so I really am indebted to you.

I suppose another explanation for the death not showing up in the GRO Index could be that there was a slip up between the local Registrar’s office and them?

Once again many thanks.

Spiderboy.
Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: CuriousKat on Tuesday 14 June 16 16:54 BST (UK)
Theodora's ashes were interred with her husband on the 20th October 1972, at All Saints, Eccleshall
grave plot No N1215.


Title: Re: Death of Theodora Smith Machin
Post by: spiderboy on Monday 20 June 16 12:54 BST (UK)
Many thanks CK for the additional information. Please could I ask where you found it?