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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: kathywithak on Monday 06 June 16 01:11 BST (UK)
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Where can I see a list of servants for either Catton Hall in Derbyshire or 25 Bruton Street, London for the time period of 1820-1891?
Louisa Frances Horton grew up in Horton Hall and then married the Rev Richard Carelton and lived at 25 Bruton Street in London.
My ancestors were servants for this family. I havent been able to find any list of servants at all, but have gotten some replies that there are 10 servants listed as living at 25 Bruton.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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Have you found your ancestors in the relevant census records?
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And not all servants were living in with a family particularly in towns and cities.
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It would help if you could tell us who you are looking for - ca. 10 servants a fair old number and the only way to find them is on the census.
Annette
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1841 Census
Bruton St,
HO107/733/4/St George Hanover Square
Hon Richard Carleton, 45, Independant
Frances Carleton, 50
Maria Carleton, 15
Dudley Carleton, 15, Army
Alfred Lackin, 25
Margaret Calder, 30
Fanny Simmons, 20
Alford Bisney, 15
Fanny Bisney, 15
Jane Walker, 45
Eliza Finch, 25
All down from from Alfred Lackin are Servants
1851 Census
25 Bruton St, St George Hanover Square
Frances Louisa Carleton, 60, Mar, Wife of Rev R Carlton, born Derbyshire
Joseph Holderness, 35, Butler
Maria Louisa Carleton, 28, Daug, Unm
Servants;
Jonathan Faulkner, 20
John Batten, 23
James Buckingham, 25
Adolphe Wek, 20
Mary Foster, 31
Sarah Batsford, 32
Frances Thatcher, 23
Kezia Collins, 23
Sophia Ansell, 19
Ellen Batten, 24
Emma Eggs, 26
1861 Census they are in Brighton, Sussex;
98 Marine Parade;
Richard Carlton, 69
Maria L Carlton, 39
Elizabeth Kingswell, 35 Servant
May A Hodges, 30, Servant
William S Brown,31, Servant
Trish :)
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Hi,
There a a number of records re Catton Hall held at Derbyshire Record Office:-
http://calmview.derbyshire.gov.uk/calmview/Overview.aspx
However these do not appear to contain any records relating to servants.
Servants moved about, so if you are searching for an ancestor who was a servant to the Carleton
family it would assist research if you gave as much info as you can about your ancestor.
Spendlove
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Was Catton Hall a big rural country estate?
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Hi,
This gives some info - see how the family name changes and who actually inherited:-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catton_Hall
Horton family were well connected with other local families.
Perhaps kathywithak will let us know who she is looking for.
Spendlove
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Hi guys,
Sorry, I should have said who I was looking for.
The name is William Ansell and his wife Ann Green Ansell. William Ansell is said to be a coachman. They lived with their children in 25 Bruton Mews, the street behind their employeer. The Carletons lived at 25 Bruton Street.
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The Sophia Ansell listed as a servant in 1851 is William's daughter.
William is said to be the coachman to Lady Frances Louisa Carleton and Rev Carleton.
I dont know if William worked at the Bruton Street address, or at their other estate Catton Hall.
Thanks for all your help :)
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This thread may help with background information
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=748232.0
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Hi
It is unlikely that your William Ansell ever worked at Catton Hall. France's Louisa Horton was born at
Catton Hall but she was the second daughter of Eusebius Horton, his first daughter Anne Beatrix married Sir Robert John Wilmot, he changed his name to Wilmot-Horton and it was this family who lived at Catton Hall.
Spendlove
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Thank you so much!