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Title: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: casa on Saturday 04 June 16 14:39 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information re Hamilton Peacock Logan? I am trying to trace his father etc. I know he married Jane Davidson but can't find any thing re his birth or his parents.
Any help would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: Maggsie on Saturday 04 June 16 15:01 BST (UK)
Hi
I found a Jane Davidson who married a Robert Logan
Found a Hamilton Hume Logan.
No Peacock though, sorry.
Maggsie
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 04 June 16 23:30 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information re Hamilton Peacock Logan? I am trying to trace his father etc. I know he married Jane Davidson but can't find any thing re his birth or his parents.
Any help would be appreciated.
Dates?
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: Sinann on Saturday 04 June 16 23:34 BST (UK)
There is a Peacock Logan and Jane Davidson 1816
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNQ-9JD
Could this be them?
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: casa on Sunday 05 June 16 09:28 BST (UK)

Many thanks. Yes, this is as far as I can go. Before this I have found nothing.
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: aghadowey on Sunday 05 June 16 10:31 BST (UK)
Seem to be several other people trying to trace the family of Hamilton Peacock Logan also.

Church records in PRONI according to this thread-
http://boards.ancestry.co.uk/localities.britisles.ireland.dow.general/16023.1/mb.ashx

Quite a few Logans here-
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/L/LoaLon.htm

and you've posted much more detail you already know in 2015 here-
http://www.irelandxo.com/ireland/down/killinchy/message-board/logans-killinchy

Church records (if they exist) are probably the only place you might find the name of Hamilton's father & possibly his mother.
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 06 June 16 09:57 BST (UK)
Ros Davies website http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies extract reads as you know
[Hamilton) Peacock LOGAN Killinchy married Jane Davidson 27 Mar 1816 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church   PR
in the same database
perhaps a sister is
Miss Margaret LOGAN Killinchy married John Black 28 Oct 1813 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church PR
perhaps a brother is is
William LOGAN Killinchy married Agnes Hutton 23 Dec 1825 at Killinchy Presbyterian Church PR 

There is more than one Killinchy Presbyterian Church, however even though the first church is much older, surviving records start 1812, are there earlier tombstones ? or tombstones with information that go back before 1812 see ros davies website under killinchy churches
do the baptisms say for 1812 – 1830 include parents names enabling one o go back one generation.?

the Tithe-Applotment-Books originals are in PRONI , it is a simple listing showing the acreage of land good and poor which sometimes help connect to Griffiths valuation later proving the homestead’s earlierbexistence
Tithe-Applotment-Books http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/down/tithe-applotment-books/killinchy-parish.php#.V1Ug5Feoc5Q
Logan, George   Townland: Craigaruskey Year: 1833 ie the townland immediately above Killinchy towland
Logan, James      Townland: Ballow Year: 1833 aka  Balloo currently,  the immediate townland west of Killinchy townland George is there in 1863

Griffith-Valuation http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation has a George in 1863 in Ballymacreelly map ref 69 and 70 and in Balloo map ref 17 with 2 tenants as well.
So Craigaruskey no longer,  Ballymacreelly townland lies under Balloo.  have you looked up the maps supplied on that website ?  have you then tried the same roads on a modern google map going into satelite then view the street scene and drive around the area by shifting the view along the roads. as an exile it is a treat.

Flax growers in ireland no mention of logan in 1796 http://www.failteromhat.com/flax/down.php

in 1783 James Logan is the only Logan freeholder listed in killinchy, the original list is downloadable from PRONI freeholders section

PRONI also has the index entry  for 1833 only has survived for a will of a Frances logan, widow of a John Logan of Ravarra killinchy that is the fourth townland going westwards from Ballooin the west of the parish

what other resources might exist
Muster Rolls see Bill Macafee for north ulster i have seen one for co down but where
Hearth Money Rolls - Bill Macafee states The original Hearth Money Rolls were destroyed by fire in the Four Courts, Dublin in 1922. However, the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland had made copies of the Rolls and these were lent to PRONI in the mid-1920s for copying.
Protestant Listings 1740s they exist for Banbridge 1740s
1766 religious census Bill Macafee states In March and April 1766 Church of Ireland rectors were instructed by the government to make a return of all householders in their parishes showing their religion. Unfortunately the original returns were lost in the 1922 fire in the Four Courts, Dublin. We therefore have to rely on the transcripts of Tenison Groves
Intermarriages with killinchy families that have earlier records than 1812 etc
you may know all of this but I didnt know the boundaries to expect until I did my thing.  good luck onwards and thanks to your previous correspondents and their links.
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: casa on Monday 06 June 16 14:20 BST (UK)
Many thanks for your input. I appreciate all your ideas and will follow them up.
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: next2normal on Monday 22 August 16 13:44 BST (UK)
my jane logan who married john mcilwrath at killinchy, her father was william logan of tullynagee which is 865 acres big,, Present at the wedding were Peacock Logan of Ballymullan, parish of Bangor and Alexandra McIlrath of cherryvalley COMBER, i too would like to know more of this family, her brothers name was george
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Monday 22 August 16 23:55 BST (UK)
hi next2normal, I found the 865 acres for Tullynagee Townland in Kilmood parish, which is shared among the many listed renting or owning properties, but no Logans at all and a John McIlrath who had less than 3 acres of land and sub leased a house valued at  £1 five shillings pa, see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/
then I found on http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Mc/McIlwMcJ.htm
John   McILRATH/ McLWRATH   Killinchy of Balloo; married Jane Logan 6 Dec 1834 in Killinchy Presbyterian Church ; father of James b. 1837 & Hamilton b. 1839 who emigrated to Australia then New Zealand in Dec 1860 ; their letters home have been published in 2009 by Killyleagh Family History Society ; photos available   John Bassett -Killyleagh Rd, Downpatrick ; DR 2/12/ 2009 p21; LR 2010 p90; Familia 2010 p179-180
I suggest you contact John Bassett
good luck onwards
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: next2normal on Tuesday 23 August 16 04:32 BST (UK)
yes i got the book,and that stuff, on a mc wedding out in nz in a newspaper clipping,they said william logan off tullynagee and david mclwrath of ballyminstra,
Title: Re: Logan family Killinchy/newtownards
Post by: next2normal on Thursday 06 June 24 03:51 BST (UK)
Does anyone have any information re Hamilton Peacock Logan? I am trying to trace his father etc. I know he married Jane Davidson but can't find any thing re his birth or his parents.
Any help would be appreciated.
well Peacock Logan was an uncle too my Jane Logan who Married John Mclwrath,also just found this for a james logan who died 24 jan 1812 killinchy