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Title: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: geoff3d on Friday 03 June 16 14:25 BST (UK)
Anything on Caroline death or marriage - Also witness Charlotte Drury and William Bray,
daughter of William Drury
 
Name Davis, Charlotte & Sister Caroline aged 20
Arrival date:5 Oct 1872
Departure port of London Ship: Star Queen age 18
Document ID:NAME_INDEXES:418545
ResourceCB7/23/1/1 P77

Married in the district of the Fourth of Seven no 575 no 15
Married in the House of William Drury ********************
Minister Charles B Broome dated 9 -7 -73
United Church of England by License
April 3rd 1873
Mark Brooker age 28 Labourer
Charlotte Davies age 18 Spinster Servant
witness Charlotte Drury and William Bray *******************
Generation 1
 
1. William Mark Brooker. He married Charlotte Davies 1873 in Tasmania. She was born 1851 and died 17 Feb 1914 in Tasmania Australia, daughter of Noah Paine Davis and Elisa Woodall.
 
Children of William Mark Brooker and Charlotte Davies:
     i.        2.        William Mark Brooker was born 1874 in South Australia and died 1966
     ii.                 Alice Maude Brooker was born 1877
     iii.                 Florence Gertrude Brooker was born 1888
 2. William Mark Brooker was born 1874 in South Australia and died 1966. He married Juliette Ann Johnson 31 May 1915 in the Church of Christ. Grote- Street by P. She died 1950, daughter of Olous Johnson.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Maggsie on Friday 03 June 16 15:44 BST (UK)
Hi,
Have you seen the actual ship record book?
Maggsie
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: geoff3d on Friday 03 June 16 15:51 BST (UK)
Yes thank you I was sent a copy by a member and looked it up myself.
Geoff
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Maggsie on Friday 03 June 16 15:58 BST (UK)
Ok, So you know they came from Staffordshire.
By using this area, I have found them in the 1861 and 1871 Census.
Their father was David and the Mother was Caroline.
I have saved all the info.
If you can Private Message me with your email address I will send the info on to you.
Maggsie
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davies originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sarah on Friday 03 June 16 16:14 BST (UK)
Hi Geoff,

I have just moved your post because it had been posted in the wrong place - I hope I have it correct as it did not understand from your posting what you were asking for help with ?

I have added some more detail to your title, it is especially helpful to you and us if you can add a bit more information to your headings to include the "person name" and geographical area. This way you can easily locate and update what research you have done already.

Regards

Sarah
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 04:37 BST (UK)
Geoff,
We have some well-resourced helpers on Australian Rootschat.

I notice from many of your previous posts that some do not get much response.

It is because you are just pasting slabs of disjointed information.

You need to define where these slabs of disjointed information fit in with exactly what you are seeking. 

What do you know and what do you want to know?

My understanding of this current request.
Charlotte and Caroline DAVIS came to Tas in 1872 per Star Queen.

Parents of the two were Noah Paine DAVIS and Elsa nee WOODALL   Charlotte DAVI(E)S married Mark BROOKER in 1873 in Tas. and there were children and you have some details of one son, William Mark BROOKER.
Charlotte BROOKER died in Tas in 1914.

You would like to know what became of Caroline DAVIS.

Also of interest are the witnesses on the certificate of marriage of Charlotte DAVIS to Mark BROOKER. Names William BRAY and Charlotte DRURY.

Do I have it correct?

Sue




 
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 04 June 16 06:55 BST (UK)

I am seeing the witnesses names to be Charlotte DRURY (her mark) and William DRURY (his mark)
married at the home of William DRURY Forth
(Forth would be the location)

There is a marriage for Charlotte ATTWOOD and William DRURY, 1856, on Tasmanian BDM index online.
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: cristobel on Saturday 04 June 16 07:21 BST (UK)
Here are the details of the SA deaths:

BROOKER, William Mark age 91 died 1st Feb 1966 at Semaphore, SA. Dist PtA  5A/134.
BROOKER, Juliet Ann age 72 died 30th April 1950 at Adelaide, SA. Dist Ade 752/1962.

Chris
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 07:24 BST (UK)

I am seeing the witnesses names to be Charlotte DRURY (her mark) and William DRURY (his mark)
married at the home of William DRURY Forth
(Forth would be the location)

There is a marriage for Charlotte ATTWOOD and William DRURY, 1856, on Tasmanian BDM index online.

I agree, the surnames of the witnesses are DRURY at the home of DRURY.
Sue
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: cristobel on Saturday 04 June 16 07:25 BST (UK)
Both Juliet and William Brooker are buried at Cheltenham Cemetery.  You can search here:
http://www.aca.sa.gov.au/

Chris
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 04 June 16 07:28 BST (UK)
VIC   Index birth
BROOKER Alice Maud  1877 / 1265 parents Mark / Charlotte DAVIS     @ Carlton

Where is Gertrude Florence BROOKER born?
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: geoff3d on Saturday 04 June 16 07:40 BST (UK)
Thanks for the replies Yes you are correct Sue.
Geoff
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: cristobel on Saturday 04 June 16 07:54 BST (UK)
An....... has birth of Florence Gertrude Brooker abt 1880 at Sandhurst, Vic. Parents U Brooker and Charlotte Brooker.

Chris.
Title: Re: Help needed
Post by: Dundee on Saturday 04 June 16 07:58 BST (UK)
Ok, So you know they came from Staffordshire.
By using this area, I have found them in the 1861 and 1871 Census.
Their father was David and the Mother was Caroline.
Maggsie

Their father was Daniel.  It does look a bit like David in the 1861 but it is actually Daniel.

Charlotte BROOKER's second marriage in South Australia:

Charlotte BROOKER
Father:    Daniel DAVES

Spouse:    Archibald MATHER
Spouse's Father: Joseph Birch MATHER

Marriage Date:    11 Feb 1890
Registered: Adelaide, South Australia
Pager: 441
Volume: 162

Cando should be able to provide further details of the marriage.

Charlotte MATHER's funeral notices:

THE FRIENDS of W. MARK BROOKER are respectfully informed that the Funeral of his late MOTHER (Mrs. Charlotte Mather), will leave his residence, 191, Gilles-st., on WEDNESDAY, at 4 p.m., for the West-terrace Cemetery.

MATHER - THE FRIENDS of Mr. A. MATHER are respectfully informed that the Funeral
of his late Wife (Charlotte), will leave his residence Gilles-street, on WEDNESDAY, at 4 p.m. for the West-terrace Cemetery.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/210340420


Charlotte and Caroline DAVIS came to Tas in 1872 per Star Queen.

Parents of the two were Noah Paine DAVIS and Elsa nee WOODALL   

Sue

I think we have before been through the idea that thie Charlotte and Caroline on the Star Queen are better suited in age to the daughters of Daniel and Caroline.

Debra  :)

Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: rosball on Saturday 04 June 16 08:10 BST (UK)
I can rule out the marriage of a Caroline Louisa DAVIS to Robert LITTLEJOHN in 1884.

Caroline LITTLEJOHN died in 1958 at age 95 and is buried at Carr Villa Cemetery with her husband Robert so she is wrong age.
http://www.launceston.tas.gov.au/lcc/index.php?c=30&burial_record=67744

I guess you could search through marriage images to check her age at marriage ...  needs patience  :)   https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2125029

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 08:15 BST (UK)
 

Charlotte and Caroline DAVIS came to Tas in 1872 per Star Queen.

Parents of the two were Noah Paine DAVIS and Elsa nee WOODALL   

Sue

Deb
When I typed that, I was just summarising Geoff's post with the information he has given there. ;D
Sue


 
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 09:26 BST (UK)

 
Children of William Mark Brooker and Charlotte Davies:
     i.        2.        William Mark Brooker was born 1874 in South Australia and died 1966
     ii.                 Alice Maude Brooker was born 1877
     iii.                 Florence Gertrude Brooker was born 1888
 2. William Mark Brooker was born 1874 in South Australia and died 1966. He married Juliette Ann Johnson 31 May 1915 in the Church of Christ. Grote- Street by P. She died 1950, daughter of Olous Johnson.

These births are from the Victorian Index.
It seems to me unlikely that this Florence was the child of your couple especially as you have not said where you think the child was born.


RIDLEY  Emily
Father Alexander
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place BALLT
Year 1867
Reg  6134

RIDLEY James Alexander
Father Alexander
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place HAWT
Year 1870
Reg 23548

RIDLEY George Henry
Father Alexander
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place AXED
Year 1875
Reg  162

RIDLY Charlott Elizabeth
Father Alexander
Mother Charlott BROOKER
Birth Place WHITE HILL
Year 1877
Reg  5960

RIDLEY Alice
Father Alexander
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place WHIT
Year 1879
Reg 6196

BROOKER  Florence Gertrude
Father U
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place SANDHURST
Year 1888
Reg   24427R

RIDLEY Florence Gertrude
Father: U
Mother Charlotte BROOKER
Birth Place SANDHURST
Year 1888
Reg  24427R

Adding marriage
Digger - Pioneer Index. Victoria 1836-1888

RIDLEY Alexander
BROOKERCharlotte
Year 1865
Reg  4279


Sue

Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 09:39 BST (UK)
  He married Charlotte Davies 1873 in Tasmania. She was born 1851 and died 17 Feb 1914 in Tasmania Australia 
 

Further to Deb's funeral findings
The ADELAIDE death.

Year 1914 381/431  MATHER  Charlotte
Relative-Archibald MATHER (H)
At Adelaide

Sue
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Saturday 04 June 16 09:52 BST (UK)

   
Children of William Mark Brooker and Charlotte Davies:
     i.        2.        William Mark Brooker was born 1874 in South Australia and died 1966
     

A glance at the records shows this man was born in Tasmania in 1874
https://linctas.ent.sirsidynix.net.au/client/en_AU/names/
Sue
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: wivenhoe on Saturday 04 June 16 10:03 BST (UK)
Using Unassisted passengers  arriving "Star Queen"  Sep 1872 Victoria......
DAVIES Caroline  20 years, DAVIES Charlotte 16 years.
Ships master is David DAVIES..........ordinary name but interesting to see.

Only twenty names.

Did this ship go into a Tasmanian port?
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: geoff3d on Sunday 05 June 16 08:56 BST (UK)

Name of person who application sent out was Charlotte Drury, so likely both arrived for employment. Witness at Charlotte Marriage and from that home.
No details on Caroline.
 Unassisted passengers  arriving "Star Queen"  Sep 1872 Victoria......
DAVIES Caroline  20 years, DAVIES Charlotte 16 years.
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 05 June 16 10:04 BST (UK)

Name of person who application sent out was Charlotte Drury, so likely both arrived for employment. Witness at Charlotte Marriage and from that home.
No details on Caroline.
 Unassisted passengers  arriving "Star Queen"  Sep 1872 Victoria......
DAVIES Caroline  20 years, DAVIES Charlotte 16 years.

Not quite following you here Geoff, so I will bow out of this one for now.
Sue
Title: Re: Help needed with Ancestor Charlotte Davis originally from Staffordshire
Post by: geoff3d on Sunday 05 June 16 10:14 BST (UK)
Thank`s Sue
I was referring to
Married in the district of the Fourth of Seven no 575 no 15
Married in the House of William Drury ****
Minister Charles B Broome dated 9 -7 -73
United Church of England by License
April 3rd 1873
Mark Brooker age 28 Labourer
Charlotte Davies age 18 Spinster Servant
witness Charlotte Drury and William Bray ****