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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: CHERAN on Tuesday 31 May 16 23:48 BST (UK)
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I am trying to pinpoint the birth of
CARTER, Felix Charles Percival Carter....
From his marriage to Margaret Ellen Foord in 1896 his Father is Felix....
I can find his WW1 record on the National Archives which indicates a birth in march 1872 in Buchan Devon? the 12 or 9 March 1870 on another page...
Family search site has a Felix Charles Percival Carter born 1865 and this seems to be taken up on a few online trees....
there is also a record with this name arriving in NSW in 1882 and apprentice on the ship I think aged 17
Is it possible to find a birth record for the 1870/1872 era in Devon?
Cheran ???
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http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Births Jun 1865
CARTER Felix Charles Percival Lewisham 1d/793
Cando
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Thanks Cando
Now I am confused what do I do with the births from his war records????
Cheran
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Cheran there are four files on NAA - only his WW1 service file is digitised. There is another dated 1917-1918 with age 48.
He obviously told a few fibs.
There are a number of online trees and yes it is possible that the info has been copied from tree to tree however with three given names I doubt they have the incorrect Felix. Have you searched for him on 1871 or 1881 census?
Cando
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Enlistment standards
https://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/enlistment/
Initially age limit was 19-38. In June 1915 this was changed to 18-45 years.
He had to change his birthdate to enlist
cheers,
Ros
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Cando
Just found his burial at West Terrace 1938 aged 73 so back to the 1865 I think...
I have tried but haven't found on the census as yet...
He was living at this Daughters house at Mornington I also just located on Trove.... Does anyone know the suburb of Mornington in Adelaide???
Also found a baptism at St Bedes semaphore for Felix Charles Percival Carter Father Felix mother Hetty... (poss this is what Margaretis called?) but I can't find on SA BDM...
Thanks Cando
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If you could visit a library where Ancestry is available, you could see him with is parents on the 1871 and 1881 census. I have to go out now but will transcribe the census when I return later today if someone else hasn't done it for you.
Cando :)
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thanks Cando
I would appreciate that.....
Cheran 8)
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http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/manning/pn/m/m11.htm#mornington
Manning Index at SLSA mentions Mornington as a place but doesn't give actual location.
Cando
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http://mariners.records.nsw.gov.au/1882/03/media/112bel.gif
Yes, as crew on the Bellaport, arriving March 1882, Felix Charles Percival CARTER, Apprentice, 17, British.
JM
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Is this him in 1871 Census?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF6W-3JT
and 1881 Census
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXQ-3NDT
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/location/1986340?region=England
JM
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Thanks for your help
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Hi, this person is my great grandfather. I can help somewhat with your questions. Are you related to him? Margaret ellen
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Margaret
I am following through for a close relation of mine!
If you do 3 posts, you can send me a PM and I can you a few more details....
Cheran***** 8)
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Probable marriage for his parents, from FreeBMD
Dec qr 1863, registered Pancras
Felix CARTER and on the same page: Maria HUNT
The marriage, by banns, took place at St Pancras church, 24 November 1863
Felix CARTER, bachelor, gentleman, full age, resident Chalcot Crescent, father: Henry CARTER, dead
Maria HUNT, spinster, junior, resident: St Clement Danes, father: Frederick Knight HUNT, dead
Witnesses: Charles TOYE?, Ann CARTER
There is a later marriage for Felix CARTER snr as he applies, as a widower, for a licence to marry Rose Maria NOYES 30 March 1885.
(Some of the online public trees that I looked at seem to confuse the two wives.)
The marriage, by licence, took place at St Mary's, Islington, 1 April, 1885, one day after grant of the licence.
Felix CARTER, 42, widower, solicitor, residence: 3 Tollington Place, father: Henry CARTER, surgeon
Rose Maria NOYES, 36, spinster, residence: 3 Tollington Place, father: James NOYES, wine merchant.
Witnesses: Albert CARTER, Milly CARTER,
The England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations) shows that Felix snr died 30 June 1893 and his widow, Rose Maria CARTER is granted probate of his estate worth over 4000 pounds. His occupation is listed as solicitor and his addresses are 3 Tollington Place, Tollington Park and 12A Watling St London; he died at Ivy Cottage, Reydon, Suffolk.
There is other information available which I'm happy to post if you want it, but you may already have it.
Judith
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Judith
Very Happy to see the other info if you have the time!
Thanks for the help
Cheran 8)
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The following information is about Felix CARTER. (I've only transcribed new information, for example, birthplaces remain consistent)
FreeBMD has this birth
Felix CARTER, July qr 1843, registered Strand (London) - date fits and census entries give his birthplace as London so I think this is him.
1851 census
at 27 Gt Russell St, Finsbury
Hy Carter 46, surgeon dentist, b Clapham
Priscilla A Carter 46, b Twickenham
Albert Carter 18, b Cheltenham
Rosa Carter 14, b Cheltenham
Hy Caster 12, b Cheltenham
Felix Caster 7, b St Clement Danes
1871 at Newlands, Edgeware
Felix Carter 27, solicitors' clerk
Maria Carter 27
Felix C P Carter 6, b Lewisham, Kent
Alfred Carter 5, b New Cross, Kent
Emily N Carter 4 Months b Edgeware
William Ban 18 - male servant
1881 at Crosby House, Chigwell
Felix Carter 37, solicitor in practice
Maria Carter 37
Felix C.P. Carter 16
Albert Carter 15
Emily N. Carter 10
Herbert D. Carter 9
Stanley K. Carter 7, b Stanmore
Henery D. Carter 3, b Tollington Park, London
There are also a governess, coachman and general servant.
1891 at 3 Tollington Place Islington
Felix Carter 47
Rose Maria Carter 46
Emily Nora Carter 20
Hubert Dudley Carter 19, solicitors' clerk
Stanley Knight Carter 17
Evelyn Maud Carter 8, b Chigwell
plus a cook, housemaid and nurse.
Can't see him in 1861 - perhaps he was away at school?
Judith
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Hi Cheran,
The 1st Royal Australian Naval Bridging Train was a unique unit formed made up of Naval Reservists in 1915 and Felix was a member of that unit. The unit did great work at Gallipoli and that is where Felix sustained his inguinal hernia injury and he had to come back to Australia for surgery. The Royal Australian Naval Bridging Train was disbanded in May 1917.
Gerry
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Some info re Maria HUNT who married Felix CARTER in 1863, when her father is given as Frederick Knight HUNT, deceased.
We'll start with Frederick Knight HUNT (the second forename makes him much easier to find - hope he's the only one with that name, but the dates seem to fit with what we know)
Marriage
St James, Paddington. 14 July 1835
Frederick Knight HUNT, bachelor, OTP,
Maria MERES, spinster, OTP
Witnesses: F D? Lewis, Wm Hogg
1851 at 9 Bouverie St, Whitefriars
Frederick K Hunt 36, b Horton, Bucks, surgeon and sub-editor Daily News
Maria Hunt 36, b Rockingham, Northants
Frederic E Hunt 10, b Highgate, Middlesex
Amy Smith 20, servant, b Ipswich
There is an entry for him in the Dictionary of National Biography (UK) which gives lots of info.
http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/metabook?id=dnb
Baptism for Maria MEARES, 2 January 1814 at Rockingham. Parents: Samuel (farmer) and Ann
Judith
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Wow...... Thank you! 8)