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Title: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: pagenie on Thursday 21 July 05 03:20 BST (UK)
I believe my ROY family may have resided at or near Annahunshigo.  I need help in finding a direction to begin researching this location.  The family was Presbyterian when they living in the US.

Thank you,  Carol
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: Pat Reid on Thursday 21 July 05 03:52 BST (UK)
Carol:
Annashunshigo is a townland in the Drumballyroney parish. See map in this site.
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/MAPS/DrumballyroneyTownlands.htm

At this site also you can see a listing of Roys  for Co. Down. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rosdavies/SURNAMES/Ro.htm

Hope this helps. Good luck!

Pat
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: Christopher on Thursday 21 July 05 03:55 BST (UK)
Carol,

Could you please give an approximate time span relevant to your research.

Best Wishes, Christopher
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: Aleks on Sunday 01 January 06 17:38 GMT (UK)
Although I have never heard of a family with this surname,
I am a Presbyterian living in the townland of Annahinchago
whose family have lived there for a number of generations.
Let me know if there is anything I can help you with.

Aleks
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: Christopher on Sunday 01 January 06 19:33 GMT (UK)
Happy New Year's Day to you Aleks.

Welcome to the RootsChat Irish boards and in particular the Co. Down board.
It is great to see someone just registered jumping in at the deep end and offering assistance. A brilliant start to the New Year. Tell all your friends about RootsChat Aleks.

All the best Chris
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: pagenie on Sunday 01 January 06 21:50 GMT (UK)
Aleks and Christopher,

  Thanks so much for offering help with my ROY family. 

  After years of trying to find a location that my father noted as
 "Onsco"  I am hoping that Annahunshigo is the place where my     
  Roy family originated.   I definitely know that they were from Down as it was mentioned as a birthplace on my great-great grandmother's death certificate. 

  My great-great grandparents were Robert and Margaret Roy.  I know that Robert's parents were John and Margaret Roy.    Robert and wife Margaret immigrated to the US in 1847.   They brought with them children Sarah and Robert John.  My great-grandmother, Elizabeth J., was born while at sea.  After arriving in the US the family settled in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where Robert worked in the steel mills. 

Robert(born Ireland 1805),Margaret A.(born Ireland 1810)

children
-Sarah (born Ireland 1840)

-Robert J. (born Ireland 1844)

- Elizabeth (born 1847 at sea)(MY GREAT GRANDMOTHER)

- William (born 1850 PA)


   Either Robert or Margaret may have had a sister, Jane Warren, (married name) born about 1825 in Ireland.  She and her family lived with the Roy family in the US.

   The family attended a Presbyterian church in Pittsburgh.

   I would appreciate any help that could be offered to find this family in Down.  I have been trying to find them for years.

Thanks,  Carol
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: Aleks on Friday 17 March 06 22:28 GMT (UK)
Carol,

I had a chat with Mrs Susie Carson (nee Roy).  She was born in 1920 in Lackan or Tirygory, which are townlands adjoining Annahinchago.  She says that her mother was Mary Jane Roy, who died when she (Susie) was born in 1920.  Susie was reared by her grandmother Agnes Roy (nee Mawhinney) who lived 1874-1964.  Susie's grandfather Joseph had died of meningitis in 1901.  he was a labourer - his widow bought a farm after he died (where Susie still lives).  Jospeh's father James (who was still alive when Joseph died in 1901) was another labourer who came from Scotland and married an Ulster girl, Mary Jane McIlveen.  Susie never knew of any other Roys in this area. 

It doesn't really sound as if there is a connection, as your ancestors would probably have left this area before James Roy arrived from Scotland.  Sorry I can't be of more help.

Aleks
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: BallyaltikilliganG on Saturday 18 March 06 14:20 GMT (UK)
Hold on Don’t give up, how about these 4 listed among  the 50 plus listed in Griffiths Valuation of Ireland.   Try http://www.failteromhat.com/post1845.php [PS at this stage of starting this reply, I didn’t realise you already had a good answer from Hugh McCartney on Caora]

Roy James Tirfergus Drumballyroney Down
Roy James Tirygory Drumballyroney Down
Roy Alexander Ballyroney Drumballyroney Down
Roy James Ballyroney Drumballyroney Down


PRONI has 4 entries for Roy freeholders, at this stage probably non related
Result 1 Roy John Ballymurphy D/654/A3/1E   
Result 2 Roy James Ballymurphy D/654/A3/1R   
Result 3 Roy William Greyabby DOW/5/3/2   
Result 4 Roy William Grayabby DOW/5/3/2 

Have you tried the Ulster Historical Foundation website UHF has 852 matches for Roy, its www.ancestryireland.co.uk/
Birth records for Antrim and Down - Sign posting Index  220     
Marriage records for Antrim and Down - Sign posting Index  327     
Irish ancestors being researched (members interests)  11 ((ignore,almost misinformation)     
Distribution of Surnames in Ulster ( 9 counties) in the mid-19th century -- Mathesons Database  78     
Index to 1796 Flaxgrowers Bounty List (giving parish locations)  10     
1803 Agricultural Census of Antrim  4       
Illiterate voters in Irish boroughs in 1837  1     
Apothecaries Licensed to Practise 1791 - 1829  1     
Ulster Gravestone Inscription Surname-Firstname Index  97       
Index to Freeholders listed in poll-book for the Co. Antrim general election of 1776  1     
Index to Printed Irish Will Calendars 1878-1900 (covering all Ireland)  26     
Irish Will Calendars, 1858-1878  18     
Prerogative Will Index 1510 - 1810 Mayo  1     
Subscribers to Samuel Lewis' Topographical Dictionary  6     
Irish Gravestone Inscription Surname-Firstname Index  10       
Landowners in Ireland 1873  1   

Caora itself here, new arrivals forget to look under both the ‘Names database' ie your surname or last name and also the ‘Search Messages’ This should also give you clues as to locations of your possible relatives. Once you have a place from another website or source come back and search for it here.
ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP! by Carol Battin.  See good  reply by Hugh Macartney
Date:  21 July 2005  But that’s you isnt it?


The UHF has a sister website accessible ‘ History from Headstones’ here is a great first line of knowledge, you search by county and surname, again at some point you you have to pay to view the entry to get any more detail. It’s a little bit irritating when one knows they have published a series County Down Graveyard inscriptions edited by R S J Clarke but I don’t know which volume covers your area. 

Public Record Office of Northern Ireland [PRONI] ie www.proni.gov.uk/ . I always look up each of their database eg freeholders, covenanters, etc.  At first you get areas which are invaluable, then they have a system of seeing further information. Search the site thoroughly always as they have so much.eg location of church registers ie births, marriages, burials, etc

Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sponsors the website www.familysearch.com.  There is much to learn as to how to use it to its maximum. You can search for just the records for a surname in Ireland. The missing search element for you is the place associated. Its library catalogue and CD collections are worth investigating. I have not found errors myself, but other genealogists say it isnt 100% accurate and one needs to check the information at source.[As one should do anyway] The Roy/McIlveen connection is listed, others could be listed but not indexed by Drumaballyroney.

Message boards other than Caora and rootschat .  I personally always use the message boards at www.genforum.genealogy.com/ and RootsWeb.com ie www.ancestry.com. / (On both of these I often look up a surname and then ask the box to search just the surname entries for Ireland etc

Raymond’s is a useful site if you try it http://www.raymondscountydownwebsite.com/

Going back to ros davies website I reminded myself of the civil parishes surrounding the outlying townland ie adjoining parishes are Clonduff and Drumgooland and the adjoining townlands are easily found.

North of Ireland Family History Society (NIFHS) Charity number XR22524 ie www.nifhs.org/ is useful. Its easy to check their Members interests in case someone else is already researching your line! No luck sorry

Again it’s easy to forget variant spellings exist for most names. At www.family search to quickly get major variations. Roe Row McRoy etc

Hope some of this is helpfull. Don’t bother acknowledging. Good hunting Jim
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: kiwi john on Sunday 13 August 06 13:34 BST (UK)
I believe my ROY family may have resided at or near Annahunshigo.  I need help in finding a direction to begin researching this location.  The family was Presbyterian when they living in the US.

Thank you,  Carol
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: kiwi john on Sunday 13 August 06 13:47 BST (UK)
Hi Carol,  In reply to your search for family name Roy,  I came from that area and there were Roys that lived in Lacken,  that were friends of our family,  One daughter Sadie married a bobby Brown and lived in Rathfriland ,Her son I belive  is a Lecturer at a University in England,  From memory Sadies Dads name was Joe,  they lived close to  Annahinchago Lough  and may have attended Drumballyroney church,   Where the Brontes went to,  If you think this is the right trail I might find some more contacts for you ,   Good Luck
Title: Re: ROY - Annahunshigo, Drumballyroney - HELP!
Post by: ruthstran on Wednesday 20 June 07 21:17 BST (UK)
Hi Aleks.  I just joined RootsChat.  I am hoping you could find out for me if Mrs. Susie Carson is related to me on my CAMPBELL/MAWHINNEY/DICKSON side.  My grandmother, Jane Fryer STRANAGHAN nee CAMPBELL, grew up on Annahunchigo Lough.  There might also be a connection to the CARSON family on my STRANAGHAN side.  Jane's mother was Mary Ann MAWHINNEY and Ann's father was Kennedy Mawhinney. 
Thanks.
Ruth

Carol,

I had a chat with Mrs Susie Carson (nee Roy).  She was born in 1920 in Lackan or Tirygory, which are townlands adjoining Annahinchago.  She says that her mother was Mary Jane Roy, who died when she (Susie) was born in 1920.  Susie was reared by her grandmother Agnes Roy (nee Mawhinney) who lived 1874-1964.  Susie's grandfather Joseph had died of meningitis in 1901.  he was a labourer - his widow bought a farm after he died (where Susie still lives).  Jospeh's father James (who was still alive when Joseph died in 1901) was another labourer who came from Scotland and married an Ulster girl, Mary Jane McIlveen.  Susie never knew of any other Roys in this area. 

It doesn't really sound as if there is a connection, as your ancestors would probably have left this area before James Roy arrived from Scotland.  Sorry I can't be of more help.

Aleks