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Could i possibly ask for a electoral register look up in 1963/64 for
10 weelsby street grimsby(possibly weelsby road)
Looking for
alice s GRIFFITHS/JOHNSON/GERMANEY
She was born germaney, married a johnson then bigamously married a griffiths...burial records have both griffiths and johnson
thanks
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I will have a look next time I am in the library, but bear with me, as I am not sure when that will be.
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I have checked the electoral rolls for 10 Weelsby Street, Grimsby, from 1949 to 1965. the followng are all the names listed.
1949 - Alice S Johnson, Harry Francis Griffiths, Robert Hayburn
1950 - Alice Sibina Johnson, Harry Francis Griffiths, Robert Hayburn, Harry Gollings
1951- Alice S Johnson. Harry Francis Griffiths, Robert Hayburn
1952 - Alice S Johnson, Harry Francis Griffiths, Nellie Williams
1953 - Alice Sibina Griffiths, Harry Francis Griffiths, Albert Coswell
1954 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, Elizabeth Cant, James Gibson
1955 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, Jack Court, Y - Shiela Griffin (Able to vote after 1.10.1956)
1956 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry Francis Griffiths, Shiela Griffiths, James Leveridge
1957 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, Shiela Griffiths, Kenneth Fenley, Mabel Whitelam
1958 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, Kenneth Fenley
1959 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, William Coppin
1960 - Alice S Griffiths, Harry F Griffiths, William Coppin
1961 - Alice S Griffiths, William A Coppin, Mabel O Whitelam
1962 - Alice S Griffiths
1963 - Alice S Griffiths, Arthur Hamilton, Jack Willis, Allan Biney
1964- Alice S Griffiths, Jack Willis, Allan Viney
1965 - 10 Weelsby Street not listed.
According to WWW.Deceasedonline.com Alice died on 17.10.1964 and was cremated at Grimsby Crematorium on 22.10.1964.
I can find no record on that site for Harry Francis Griffiths
I hope that helps
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thank you so much for the information...its a great help
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This one has me stumped...alice s johnson bigamously married harry griffiths in 1942 and was sent to prison for 3 months but looks like she then went back to live with him but used her former name...would the marriage have been annuled.Also , harry griffith died at 10 weelsby street in 1960 and the informant on death certificate was mabel o whitlam who was living there along with alice (harrys wife), so why wasnt alice the informant.I cant find a connection between alice and mabel whitlam although iut appears she had lived with alice and harry griffiths in 1957
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When the second marriage was found to be bigamous, then that second marriage becomes void. This no doubt why she went back to Johnson. Do we know when she appeared before the court and was sentenced to 3 months, and which court. Have you the date of the death as I can look for an obituary in the local papers in the library the next time I am in. By the number of different people who were listed with them it is possible that they took in lodgers, who were not related to them. Were there any unusual circumstances re cause of death on the death certificate, which could be why Alice was not the informant. Was she so upset that he had died that Mabel recorded the death for her ? We will probably never know.
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harry hugh griffiths died on 23rd december 1960
court case for alice bigamy was reported in lincolnshire echo on 8th november 1944 but she married harry in september 1942....newspaper says she was housekeeper and married harry to be a mother to his 2 children.
The trial was at the Lincolnshire Assizes
I know there was a family feud between alice and harrys family...he had been married before and has 5 children..apparently they didnt approve of alice
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Is the Harry Hugh Griffiths, the same person as Harry Francis Griffiths, as his name is given in the electoral roll?
When I am next in the library I will see if there is an obituary for him and further article regarding the bigamy case in the Grimsby telegraph.
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yes its the same person, thank you for your time,,,alice johnson was my half sisters grandmother who she never met and we only found out about the bigamous marriage last year so its very interesting.I wonder what prison she would have been sent to...seems a bit harsh but then the law is the law
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Leave it with me, I will be in touch after my next visit.
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I have not forgotten my offer to look up at the local library. Good weather and a new kitchen has curtailed my research at the moment. I will be in touch
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Visited the library today.
I have found the following:-
GRIFFITHS-On December 23, 1960, at Scartho Road Hospital, Harry Hugh, aged 69 years, of
10 Weelsby Street, Grimsby, passed peacefully away the beloved husband of Alice, and dear father of Harry, Wilfred, Edna, Nellie, Ruby, Iris and Sheila. Interment Scarthoe-road Cemetery, Wednesday, preceded by service at St. John's Church 1.20p.m.
Evening Telegraph Tuesday December 27 1960
A GRIMSBY WOMAN BIGAMIST
THREE MONTHS' SENTENCE AT ASSIZES
At Lincolnshire Assizes at Lincoln yesterday, Alice Salina Johnson (48), housekeeper, pleaded guilty to committing bigamy at Grimsby in September, 1942, and was sent to prison for three months.
She told Mr. Justice Wrottesley that she did it "to mother" the man's two children.
Grimsby Evening Telegraph 7 November, 1944
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thank you so much for the information...I now know the names of the other children
much appreciated
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At a visit to the local library today I found the following obituary notice in the Grimsby Evening Telegraph for Tuesday 20 October 1964.
GRIFFITHS:- On October 17, 1964, at the Grimsby General Hospital, Alice, aged 69 years, of 10 Weelsby Street, Grimsby, passed peacefully away, the dearly loved mother of Theodora, Joe and Catherine. Service and committal Grimsby Crematorium Thursday 2pm.
That gives three names different to obituary for her husband. They are probably from her first marriage, but they probably mean somthing to you.
Regards
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once again many thanks, yes the names are her children from first marriage...joe was my half sisters father