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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cheshire => Topic started by: celia on Wednesday 20 July 05 16:53 BST (UK)
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I have recently discovered A book of Marriage mostly the 1800 in Wallasey. The book appears to be very new so maybe thats why i haven't seen it before.It gives the name of the person Married and the church the ceremony took place. and the year. In the case of a female marriage the name given might be her maiden name. I am not familiar with the book as yet, but i don't think it's anything to do with registration records.It might be of help to whittle down a marriage year though. If anyone knows someone who married in Wallasey in the 1800 but doesn't know when or where. Send me the information to practice on ;D and i will see if i can help.
Celia
Correction 22nd Sep 2005.The books i use are the G.R.O references to B.M.D.In Wallasey.So only start from the registration year,not 1800 but i maybe able to find earlier marriages
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Hi Celia, here is one for you Elizabeth Davies and Richard Smith (sorry for it being Davies and Smith!) they were married in Wallasey I think and it was most likely around the early 1870's. If its any help he was christened in St Hilary's in 1841 and when Richard died, Elizabeth was married for a second time in 1890 at a Wirral civil ceremony.
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Hello again Toad,thats what my mum called me when i was young ;D My, the name Davies is popular lost count of the davies i looked for :D All the St Hilary's are there so will have look for you.Will P.M about the other thing tommow.
Celia
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Hi Toad
Surename F Page Year Wallasey
Davies Elizabeth 400 1876 St Hilary C11/2
Smith Richard William 408 " " "
Celia
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Its says in the Wallasey Church of England Marriages
1837-1900. That is true,but most are 1800's with the odd 1900
Other Church records are
Egremont St John C1
Liscard St Mary C3
Morton Christ Church C5
New Brighton St James C8
Seacombe St Paul's C10
Wallasey St Hilary C11
These records should help you to pin down the correct Marriage year and help with your Genealogy.
Note. It says on the first page.All unlawful marriage are held by the registrar. Anyone know if these are kept separate and why would it be unlawful.Surely no one would marry them if it was unlawful.
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Thanks Celia looks like they were married after their first child was born.I have the first one born in 1874 and the second the year they were married in 1876 :-[. My great Nan their third child also had my Nan before she married :-[ :-[ . The whole family thought that the man my great Nan married was the father of all the children she had. I put the cat among the pigeons by finding out that Nan had been christened Winifred Ellen PARKER Smith (the Smith being her mums maiden name).
Just before Nan was born her mum had been living with a family of Parker's ;D On her christening records her father was a Robert Parker :D. Its so amazing what things you can find from christening records :)
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St Mary
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St Paul
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St James
This is only one part of the church as are the others,which are large.Because of there position and size it isnt possible to take the whole church. This WAS taken on a sunny day,honest
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St John
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Thought the photo's looked a bit drab so i brightened them up a bit.Think they look a bit better, dont like drab ;D
Celia
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Hi Celia... I'm looking for the marriage of John Morris b. 1842 & Elizabeth Hughes b. 1848. Their 2 daughters were born in Liscard, on Rake Lane. I'm hoping that John & Eliz. were married in Wallasey. Probably between 1870-1884.
Thank you. Joan Rines, Maine, US
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Hello Joan
I looked on the UkB.M.D and found one only must have called himself John for short ;D
Cheshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1881 to 1885
MORRIS Jeremiah HUGHES Elizabeth Wirral, Civil Marriage Wirral BW/25/123 Married in 1881
If you go to the website you will see a number at the end.Click on it to see a form you can use to send for the certificate if you want.I will see what other information i can find in the library
Celia
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Thanks again, Celia. I have that cert. & the ages are wrong. They're very elusive, my Morris'. But he was a stonemason, so probably travelled alot.
They were Church of Eng.
Joan
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Hello Joan
I went to the library as promised and found it closed ??? I forgot to remember it now closes on a Saturday afternoon ::) I was going to look through the directories.Its quicker than the net ones,after i had looked for the marriage if any in wallasey.Whats the last address you had for John,when where his children born.Rake lane was nearly all shops and there were about 3 /4 stone masons in bussines at the time john would have been there.One is still there right next to the cemetery.
Celia
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Hi Celia... thanks so much.
The last known address for John Morris was
353 Rake Lane, Liscard on 26 Aug 1885. I did not find them there for the 1881 census, but I did find a John Morris/40 b. 1841 Denbigh/mason/mar/lodging
at Pencrug, Llangadock, Carmarthen who seems to be the only one I could find that fit the bill.
They emigrated in 1887 to Portland, Maine.
Thanks again for all the help. Joan
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Hi Joan
no wonder i couldn't find him on the on line directories earlier this evening :D Looks like you may have found him. So If this is him you now know he was married in/by 1881
If he was welsh he might have been visiting relatives.Was his wife welsh?Then like today you will find that most women get married from home.So if i don't find a marriage next week.Maybe you should look in her hometown/ Birthplace for the marriage.
Celia
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Hi Celia.... Yes, they were Welsh. But all I know is that John was from Denbighshire. Nothing about Elizabeth Hughes.... and there are thousands of them! I can't even narrow them down to a town. They're such common names. No sons to glean a family name. I've found a few towns that have a few of the odder family names- Constance, Dorothea & Ruth- but nothing concrete. I have both Eliz. II and Harriette Agnes born in Wallasey by 1884. Is it odd to have first marriages at 42 & 36 yrs.old?
Thanks again, Joan
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Hi Joan
I had a look in the Wallasey marriages there was a marriage in 1882/3 for a John Morris but the wife didn't match even though there were other female Hugh's Marriages (was that her full name) . I also looked In the street and postal directories to see if i could find him.I found two Johns different addresses but no initials, before 1885. If a person moved round a lot and lived with others i am not sure if they would be included in the postal directories.usually it is only the owner or the renter of a house that is mentioned, as far as i know.The other difficult thing is that in the earlier directories in wallasey & Birkenhead area.Houses were not numbered they were named. Because a lot were cottages so had names like Rose cottage,Brick cottage and so on.Sorry i couldnt be of
more help.
Celia
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Thanks for all your help, Celia. It's really appreciated. Joan
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Celia,
Could you have a look for a marriage between Hugh (sometimes called Evan) COLQUITT (various spellings!) and Ann/Nancy OWEN/OWENS in the early 1830s? Their first (?) child Catherine/Katherine was christened in Wallasey (presumably St Hilary's) in 1835. Ann/Nancy was from Moreton, but all the children were born in New Brighton or Egremont so the marriage could be Wallasey as I can't find it in Bidston.
TIA
Sheila
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Hello Sheila
If Catherine was Christened in St Hilary,Liscard Wallasey Which is C.O.E that is where the couple would have probably Married.You don't usually marry in one church and C the children in another, unless you married then moved to another part of the country.For the record, Morton,New Brighton, Egremont & Bidston are in Wallasey and a short distance from each other. I will let you know in a couple of days of any finds.Is there anything else you would like me to look up while i am in the library?
Celia
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Hello Sheila
I will have to change the year on the topic :) The Books i look in are the reference books of B.M.D Of the G.R.O. So they only go from the registration year (still new to this:D )
So i couldn't find Hugh,but there is another book i can look in for the marriage.There is an earlier book i think goes back to the beginning of time,very old church :) It was transcribed by someone many years ago.All with one of those big black typewriters.So i will look in that one,in the meantime i found in the reference book of Marriages that might come into your tree at a later date.
Colquitt. Elizabeth 167 1885 C11/3 St Hilary
John 61 1897 Wallasey St John C1/2
Martha Ann 217 1896 Seacombe St Paul C10/2
Numbers are Vol & Page
I have also copied out 16 Colquitt births from 1840 to 1872 thats only half of them ;D and 9 deaths from 1840 to 1882 one of them is for a Hugh. So i will translate my writing and type it out then copy it on a post later.
Celia P.S let me know if you want these or not, so i don't do the unnecessary :)or if you just want the deaths
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Having looked through my posts,it looks like i might confuse someone ;D to look up marriages in wallasey i mainly use two books.One is Marriages in wallasey Plus the Churches that goes from 1800 to 1901 but there are only a few of both those years then all years in between are in it. The other one as said is the G.R.O reference book of marriages in wallasey, and starts later. So if a marriage hasn't been transcribed onto the net i might find it in that book.I also have available at the library the postal directories for Cheshire from
1700 1745 to about 1970.some are missing though. So i am happy to do a look up with those while i am at the library.
Celia
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Hellol Joan
I will be visiting the Library later today so I will have another look for your marraige.
Celia
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You're a wonderful person, Celia, to help us all so much.
I'll be away for about a month, but I'll look forward to anything you might dig up. Just don't want you to think I'm ignoring you.
Many thanks, Joan
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Hi Joan
No i would never think that, you are very prompt with your replies.This lets me get the work done :)
Seeing that you will be away for a month and i went out earlier than expected.I better leave a message or i will have forgotten what i did in another month ;D I did look for the marriage again but still didn't find it :( I think i may go further back. I had a look in the directories as well,still no sign. I once saw a notice in one of the books that still makes me smile.It said that all illegal marriage where held by the registrar.How could you be married if it was illegal maybe your couple are in there.Only kidding ;D
Celia
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Celia P.S let me know if you want these or not, so i don't do the unnecessary :)or if you just want the deaths
Hi Celia,
Sorry - I've been offline for a couple of days! Yes, I would very much like the Colquitt records you found, especially the deaths!
Many thanks for all your help!
Sheila
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Hello Sheila
right e.o will get on with it now i will send the deaths first
Celia P.S I will send by P.M as the topc is a marriage lookup ;)
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Hi Sheila
How rewarding to know that my find is of use to you.As i have mentioned before.If one relies on the Free & U.K B.M.D
for information.It might be years before it gets transcribed,so if G.R.O.books are available(+ Various F.H.S. church transcriptions) its much quicker than having to to travel to the city lord knows how many times. I will consider other things you mentioned as well and see what i can dig up,scews the pun ;D no need to reply to this post.
I still have to look through the original St Hilary Book of records that go from 1500 there were Earlie records but were to fragile to transcribe.
Celia
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Re. Marriage announcements in the wallasey News 1899.1990
Quote. For easy reference the index is compiled in sections of five years.The index covers all the marriages in the family announcement column only, and does not include separate write ups. of which thier are hundreds.The index list s Brides and Grooms separately.
Years covered for marriage.
Wallasey News. 1899 1950
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Wallasey Chronicles 1899 1956
The index only give a surname,then the day/date/month/year that the announcement appeared in the paper.It then has to be looked up on the the film. So if your looking for a common name i will need the name of both.Bride & groom ( Christian for bride,) and appoximate year.if they are not in the book.no announcement was made.
Celia Amended 18th March 2006
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The above posting are for the personnel column only of the paper.They do not include separate write ups as said above.which as now, you get a full description plus photo of the wedding IF it WAS in the paper..I have looked on the film for the wallasey news 1937.Unfortunately what i was looking for must have been on the page that was missing :( While i was in 1937 i took some Marriages various months but most in December.These are long write ups so just names are given.
Clarke-Pavey .St Nicolas Church, Doreen Gertrude Pavey & Guy Clark.
Shallcross-Jones
Larkin-Harrison
O'Connel-Warriner
James-Smith
Douglas_George Pollard Dennis jnr
Witter-Quayle.
1914 Naval wedding very big one ;D To much to print out.
Sophia Doris Mary Astley-Lieutenant Charles Ceasar De Merindol Malan.R.N of H.M.S Mallard
Celia
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Jonessa/Sheila
I have just discovered i didnt send you the Colquitt births 1840- 1874. Sorry bout that ::) do you still want them.No problem if you dont.
Celia
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These are short versions most are to long to copy.as i was on the page last week, didnt find what i wanted so took these instead ;D
Wallasey News Articles. Edition March 17th 1917
Liscard Wedding Turner/Carruthers St Mary Church Liscard
May Carruthers of Manor Road Liscard
Sapper Lionel Frank Turner,Royal engineers.Of Liscard
Edition April 14th 1917
Secombe, Naval Wedding St Josephs Church
Miss F. Henrick Ellis & Brian Ray Ennis. Hood Battalion Royal Naval Divsion.
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Hi Celia, can you find the marriage of - sorry, another Davies, William Davies to Annie, possibly named Fellow(e)s, possibly in New Brighton or Upper Brighton in about 1886 or 1887?
Thanks, Chris
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Years covered for marriage.
Wallasey News. 1899 1950
" " 1951 1990
Wallasey Chronicles 1899 1956
Hi Chris, do you mean a lookup in the older newspapers,if so they only go from the above dates. Marriages for the years you want.are mostly on-line if they have been transcribed. I have been through the U.K. Marriages there are a few Williams registered in Wirral and Birkenhead.Married to annie's/Ann but without a maiden name its a bit difficult. I also went through some years on ancestry beta marriages. Unfortunately i found someone has burped (more of a belch actually ;D ;D) on the search results page for 1884 -1886.? The whole 3 years of quarteres are down as being Nov to Dec. Fortunately i found when i clicked on one of the Now-Dec quarters it was A January quarter 1886. The nearest i can find to 1886 .Are two Williams reg B/H 1884 one in April two in July.,In October another, two.One registered wirral one in birkenhead.(Same thing)
1886 a William registered January.1887 same.the last nearest year is October quarter 1888 registered wirral. I didn't find any Annie Fellows either. Not much help am i ;D ;D
Celia
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As looking up a marriage is now so easy to do on the internet. I will now use this topic for Marriage newspaper articles,and notice. Which i will add too now and then, So if you know a person was married in the wallasey area they might be in the newspaper.An article (not an announcement)gives you so much information on a wedding.If found it is a wonderful bit of history to have in your family tree file. As looking through newspapers on film is very time consuming. I would appreciate you do a marriage look up first. If you are not sure of the year.I can still look up earlier marriage if known to have taken place in The Wallasey.
Celia
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Just on the off chance - any record of any Biddle/Biddell/Bithell marriages c1850-1865?
Ideally looking for a John Biddle(Biddell/Bithell) marrying a Mary/Maria/Dinah McDermott but interested in any Biddle/Biddell/Bithell marriages around that timeframe in case they are related to my John?
Many thanks :)
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Hi Nigel
Have you read the above post? Now ancestry 1837 B.M.D are free I don't think, the topic will really be needed. I can look up marriages in wallasey before that date if not on the I.G.I. So if you want anything before 1837 i will be going to the library during the week. I will change the heading to the topic.
Newspapers dont start tiill 1899
Celia
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Oops - sorry should have read the thread through properly :-[
Thanks anyway :)
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Years covered for marriage.
Wallasey News. 1899 1950
" " 1951 1990
Wallasey Chronicles 1899 1956
Hi Chris, do you mean a lookup in the older newspapers,if so they only go from the above dates. Marriages for the years you want.are mostly on-line if they have been transcribed. I have been through the U.K. Marriages there are a few Williams registered in Wirral and Birkenhead.Married to annie's/Ann but without a maiden name its a bit difficult. I also went through some years on ancestry beta marriages. Unfortunately i found someone has burped (more of a belch actually ;D ;D) on the search results page for 1884 -1886.? The whole 3 years of quarteres are down as being Nov to Dec. Fortunately i found when i clicked on one of the Now-Dec quarters it was A January quarter 1886. The nearest i can find to 1886 .Are two Williams reg B/H 1884 one in April two in July.,In October another, two.One registered wirral one in birkenhead.(Same thing)
1886 a William registered January.1887 same.the last nearest year is October quarter 1888 registered wirral. I didn't find any Annie Fellows either. Not much help am i ;D ;D
Celia
Sorry Celia I misread your original post thinking you had C19th marriages from another source.
I saw you found an 1870s marriage for someone else earlier in the thread.
I too have been searching FreeBMD for this marriage but without success. The problem concerns William and Ann's elder daughter - my grandmother Ada Davies who was born illegitimately. My father only found this out after her death - her age had been falsified, to the extent of her being sent to school a year late to cover this up.
So where is William Davies and Annie Fellowes' marriage? I used a bit of lateral thinking - they crossed the Mersey and got married (in secret, presumably) in 1887 in Liverpool!
Chris
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Hello Chris
I am sorry you got confused not your fault though the topic has got confused over a time.Caused by me not sticking to what the topic was originally for.That was to look for marriage in the library that the on line B.M.D had not yet transcribed. From 1837 they can only go to a certain date i think. This seems to apply to all church records in the library as well. It was also to find pre1837 B.M.D then i found a gap between 1800 and that date. I have since found more books,and i am now in the process of copying out marriages and Deaths from the parish registers of Wallasey. i have up to now done Burials 1799 1800 1801.
Marriages 1800,1801/2/3/4 (only two )/5 These are for my own use if anyone wants a lookup for earlier marriages of ancestors.They wont be ready for a while yet as it takes many journeys and lots of typing up. Have you asked on the Cheshire board for help in finding your
marriage. Sometimes others find things that we miss. If i find anything in the meantime i will let you know
Celia
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Hello Chris
I am sorry you got confused not your fault though the topic has got confused over a time.Caused by me not sticking to what the topic was originally for.That was to look for marriage in the library that the on line B.M.D had not yet transcribed. From 1837 they can only go to a certain date i think. This seems to apply to all church records in the library as well. It was also to find pre1837 B.M.D then i found a gap between 1800 and that date. I have since found more books,and i am now in the process of copying out marriages and Deaths from the parish registers of Wallasey. i have up to now done Burials 1799 1800 1801.
Marriages 1800,1801/2/3/4 (only two )/5 These are for my own use if anyone wants a lookup for earlier marriages of ancestors.They wont be ready for a while yet as it takes many journeys and lots of typing up. Have you asked on the Cheshire board for help in finding your
marriage. Sometimes others find things that we miss. If i find anything in the meantime i will let you know
Celia
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I've found the actual marriage on FreeBMD in Liverpool, (then) Lancashire. No need to involve Cheshire boards. Chris
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I was just about to say i had another quick look for the marraige but i see you found it. Is it the the Annie Fellows no e. Married Jan Quarter Registered Wigan in 1886.
In the same year, same quarter registered same place under Davies William Henry.
Celia
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I was just about to say i had another quick look for the marraige but i see you found it. Is it the the Annie Fellows no e. Married Jan Quarter Registered Wigan in 1886.
In the same year, same quarter registered same place under Davies William Henry.
Celia
No, March quarter 1887 in Liverpool itself. William Davies and Annie Fellowes - no middle names. Wigan seems a bit far off, and if it had been 1886 there'd be no need for subterfuge. I can't see the marriage you found. Chris
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Nigel
I have to revisit the library so while i am there i will have a look and see if i can find any Biddle marriages.
Celia
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Thanks Celia - that's very much appreciated :)
The problem I have is that my Gx2 Grandmother's birth certificate in 1866 gives John Biddle (sic) as her father - a labourer at a sugar refinery - & her mother as Dinah Biddle.
By the 1871 census, Dinah has changed into "Maria" Biddell (sic) and she's a widow (born Dublin, IRE). The only mention I have of John is on the birth cert so I've no idea where he was born ???
I'm hoping that if there are other Biddles married/living in the area, they may be related.
Cheers ;D
PS FYI - my bunch lived at 7 Upper Beckwith St, Birkenhead - address matches birth cert & 1871 census. Trying surrounding areas - just in case!
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Nigel
While i was waiting to use the film reader i had a look in the G.R.O Reference book.This book contains all those married in wallasey and are taken from The registers.Its says from 1837 to 1901 but their are very few 1901. It a great book because all the names are in alphabetical order.Don't know if these finding are of any relevance or you have them or not but i took them anyway.
Biddle John Staker 1890 Moreton Christchurch
Lucy 1899 " "
Frank 1899 " "
There is only 1 McDermott Edith Mary 1853 St Hilary.
Obviously i couldn't trawl through the thick book of corresponding numbers.To find the other halves so i cheated ;D and found them on the Cheshire B.M.D. Might as well finish the job
1890
John Staker Biddle married Jane Saunders Moreton Chrischurch.
1899
Lucy Biddle married Michael Joseph Connell. Moreton Christchurch
1899
Frank Biddle Married Margaret Eleanor Briscoe (cant remember the spelling)Moreton Chrischurch.
Celia P.S Edith Mary seems not to have been transcibed yet so cant find her other half :(
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
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Many thanks Celia :)
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Post deleted as it no applies
Celia
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Parish registers of Wallasey in the county of Chester
Marriages St Hilary
This is my own idex from the oridginal marriage/banns
certificates.1800 James Ensor H.M Navy and Elisth Rainford 8th June
Richard Beasley. Flatman and Elisth Young 15th July
Samuel Jones. Cordwainer. and Elisth Deane 18th Aug
John Percival. Cordwainer. and Mary Jones 3rd Dec.
1801Roger Jacson a.m 0f Bebington and Mary Anton Johnson 27th May
Edward Dean. Farmer and Elisth Dean 26th Nov
1802Joseph Bennett of Bidston Servant and Catherine Davies 10th March
Thomas Garner. Farmer and Sarah whittle.19th Oct.
1803. Johnathan Ledsham. Servant and Ann Bennett 14th June
Joseph Ledder. Servant and Alice Bennett 17th Aug
W.Peers Servant and Esther Ledder ?
1804 Alexander Wilmot Schomberg of Neston,widower and Ann Smith.
1805 William Clark. Marina and Mary Dean 28th April
William Armitage. Widower and Eliz Banks 25th June
Joseph Streets servant and Mary Ledder " "
Joseph Dean Yeoman and Margt Hillian (Name has been hand corrected to Hilliard 14th July
Celia
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1806
Thomas Wilson occ, famer married Jane Hughes14th Jan
Henry Smith from Bidston occ Yeoman.Married Mary Harrison 6th Feb.
William Ledders occ Weaver married Alice Dean 25th March.
Alexander Weatherspoon (Genleman) Married Margaret Bickerson 25th Aug.
1807.
Thomas Ledder (widower) married Catherine Clark 20th Jan.
Robert Ewards from L,Pool occ,Butcher married Elizabeth Harrison 29th July.
John Cookson occ Farmer married Catherine Woodfine 2nd Sep.
1808. John Ledder(Gentleman)of L,Pool married Mary Stanly 14th Jan.
Raph Hassal occ Miller married Catherin Cooper 21st March.
John Evans occ Farmer.married Elizabeth Garner 1st Jun.
1809.
Stanley Garner Occ Farmer married Elizabeth Standley 15th March.
John Owens (genleman) Married catherine Jones 5th June
Henry Langley from Bebington married Ann Mulineux 24th July.
Thomas Meols occ Servant married Jane Williams 25th July.
1810
Alexander Dean occ Fisherman marrien Jean Dean 29th Jan.
Gwyne Ledder occ Labourer married Elisabeth Billiston 19th Feb
John Derbyshire occ Servant marrid Fanny Benison 25th April
1811
Samuel Ashbrook married Rebecca Caterton 26th Feb.
John Mollineux married Mary Hughs 22nd July
Edmund Nuttall married Ann Dean 25th July.
Alexander Rogers married Margaret Rimmer 24th Dec
1812
Samuel Haslhurst Occ Marina married Martha Woodfine 1st Jan
John Leo married Catherine Schofield 12th May
William Davies Married Ann Harrison 19th May
Thomas Griffith Ansdell of L,Pool married Ann Jackson 16th Aug
Hy Meadowes married Elizabeth Smith from Bidston 20th Dec.
John Walton married Elizabeth Gilcrist a widow 25th Dec.
Hope someone will find these usefull one day, although the registers go back far. I cant find anything between 1812 and the registration date of 1837.
Celia UpDate I now have a index of Marriages From 1781 to 1838
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HI,
Could you please tell me if there are any Summerfield marriages listed please
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Hi dizziebee
I can any particular year in St Mary's St Hilary :-[
Celia
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Hi Dizziebee
I just noticed my mistake,I don't know where St Mary keeps coming from ;D
The Pre 1837 Marriages for ST HILARY are in a book that are taken from the original registers (not by me) They go by year obviously.So i cant look up Surename only,because they start very early. Do you have an idea of the marriage year as there are lots books to look through at the library.
Celia
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Its a long shot , they may not have married there at all , just that the area could be within their reach. I am trying to locate the marriage of William Summerfield b abt. 1815 in Runcorn to Mary ????? possibly around 1835ish but they moved between Runcorn, Birkenhead, Wallasey, Warrington , I am grasping at straws.
Thanks
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Hi dizziebee
Well no harm in looking, I will visit the library tomorrow,i have mentioned some where on here that there seems to be a gap in years between the 1812 and 1837 I will see what i can do,Don't hold your breath though ;D
Celia
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St Hilary Marriage The Missing Years
I am Pleased to announce that i have now discovered the Missing Marriage Years between 1812 & 1837.
St Hilary Marriages 1744- 1865. It turned out these are the actual Banns (before 1813) Then the Marriage Certificates to 1865. So I now have access to these marriage.
So can do a look up if required.As long as i have an approximate year.If you are not sure the marriage took place in St Hilary.The lookup will be done when next using the machine for other reasons.
Dizziebee,I looked from 1830 to 37 no luck. sorry
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Thanks for your time, I thought it was a stab in the dark
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I now have the marraiges 1830 to 1834 on file, these will be added to For and Aft in the coming weeks
Celia
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Hi Celia,
Do you have either of the following marriages: John Fellow(e)s to Ann, or Edward Fellow(e)s to Alice? Both believed to have been in Wallasey/Liscard and not found on freeBMD - might possibly be before 1837. Thanks. Chris
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Hi Chris
Sorry no Fellow Marriage 1830- march 1836 If i come across any while indexing them i will let you know,and keep you updated with with the years i have
Celia
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Hi Chris
i did a few more years Transcribing today. Didnt find any Fellows
Celia
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Hi Celia, thanks for looking out anyway. Chris
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I have now updated my index For Marriage in St Hilary.
From January 1782 Nov1839.These are reference index only
Celia
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For the attention of Dizziebee
Hi Dizziebee
you may have found the marriage of your William Sommerfield by now,if not William Somerfield married Elizabeth Williams by bans in 1810 both of Neston parish
Regards Celia
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Update 17th December 2006
Marriage index now includes the years up to June 1843.
Celia
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I have now been through all the marriage on my 1840/43 index and found all but 5 on http://www.ukbmd.org.uk
A full transcription is available for all marriage (if readable ;)
Celia
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Nigel
While i was waiting to use the film reader i had a look in the G.R.O Reference book.This book contains all those married in wallasey and are taken from The registers.Its says from 1837 to 1901 but their are very few 1901. It a great book because all the names are in alphabetical order.Don't know if these finding are of any relevance or you have them or not but i took them anyway.
Biddle John Staker 1890 Moreton Christchurch
Lucy 1899 " "
Frank 1899 " "
There is only 1 McDermott Edith Mary 1853 St Hilary.
Obviously i couldn't trawl through the thick book of corresponding numbers.To find the other halves so i cheated ;D and found them on the Cheshire B.M.D. Might as well finish the job
1890
John Staker Biddle married Jane Saunders Moreton Chrischurch.
1899
Lucy Biddle married Michael Joseph Connell. Moreton Christchurch
1899
Frank Biddle Married Margaret Eleanor Briscoe (cant remember the spelling)Moreton Chrischurch.
Celia P.S Edith Mary seems not to have been transcibed yet so cant find her other half :(
http://www.cheshirebmd.org.uk/
Going back a bit I appreciate but surely some relation to Frank Biddle the farmer who writes the history of Moreton books? A good age but still alive and living in the farm at the end of Leasowe road as far as I am aware?
Best I can do sorry. http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/0100news/0100regionalnews/page.cfm?objectid=12292497&method=full&siteid=50061
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Hi
I am looking for a marriage between John Owens, b.1809 to Jane ? .b 1806, they lived in Poulton cum Seacombe in the 1841 census, but moved to Liverpool shortly after.
Did they meet and marry at St Hilary's, say 1838on ? bit of a long shot,
hope you don't mind..
Can you help.
Cheers
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Hi Plenty of John's but no owens between 1843 and back up. There is a Marrage of a John (unreadable ;D To Mary Garner Feb 1841
Celia
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1823
Samuel Pemberton & Sarah Partington
James Derbyshire & Maria Evans
Richard Anderson & Emma Weston
David Andrews of Eccles & Rose Ann Ryan
Samuel Jones & Johanna Molynuex
Thomas Davies & Catherin Simmer
1919
James Price Plumber & glazier of Bebington & Jane Peers
William Martin a farmer & Margaret Harrison.
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Hi, hope you can help - looking for several marriage dates. George Wakefield born 1749, died 1829,and Ann[aka Nancy] surname unknown born1742, died1844. They lived Kingsley/Newton area. Also William Banner and Eleanor Yewd or Youd, no specific dates, but around same time, possiblya little later, than Wakefield couple. One more - George Joinson[Joynson] born 1783 in Horton cum Peele?, died 1873 in Lower Whitley, and Nancy[aka Ann] surname unknown, born1785, died 1847, married before 1808 maybe. Thanks, Rosanna J
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Rosanna
I only do lookups for the above Church(+ a few others ;D) in wirral
Were you meant to put the request on Cheshire Parish Records Marriages only pre 1836 ,which is at the moment below mine.
Celia
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hi Celia
Was wondering if you do a marriage look up for
WHITE Caroline Amelia BEATH James Wallasey, St Hilary
married 1872
thanks very much
Andy
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Hi Andy
Anything particular you want transcribing from the cert or do you want it all transcribed?The library wont be open till Thursday,at least i hope it will be :-\
Celia
P.S. i have found 2 entries for a marriage that might be related as Beath isn't a common name.One on the I.G.I the other on the Cheshire registers.
John Webster of Neston Married by Banns
Martha Beath of Neston in the Parish of Neston
On the 26th 12 1746
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Thank you Celia
Just the brides details including her father pr mother details.
She married again in 1876 to a Mr Brown - so Mr Beath died soon after the marriage.
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including her father pr mother details.
Sorry Andy is that a typo error :-\ If you meant Fathers & mothers details.mothers are not usually on Marriage Certs.
Just both fathers and Witnesses.
Celia
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hi Celia
Better transcribe the lot! Thanks again and happy new year.
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Andy
Marriage 1872
Oct 18th James Beath Age Full
Con, Batc
Res: Liverpool
Prof; Merchant
Father David Beath Merchant
Married
Caroline Amelia White age full
Con; spinster
Res Egremont
Father: John gen White
Occ: Ship broker
Yes it does say John gen white with a squiggle in-between :)I cant make out the whiteness names but one i am sure is John White as it has the same strange squiggle in between the John and white. cant make the other out at all.
Celia
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Celia
Brilliant thanks a lot.
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Hi Celia - I'm looking for the marriage of George Upton & Mary Dodd of Seacombe. I don't know which Wallasey church they would have used (if any). It's about 1845 - which should be in GRO records, but I can't find them. (There is a marriage of a George Upton & Mary Dodd in Liverpool but it's not them -wrong parents). Any info gratefully received!
Thanks
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Hi Paulychops
I only normally look up St Hilary which is C.O.E so i will look there first.I don't have access to all the church records because a lot of Church's have long gone so will be in the Cheshire Chester Archives.I will see if i can find the marriage anywhere On line, because i cant really do a blind search.The library is closed tomorrow so it will be Thursday or Friday before i go to do the look up for you.
Celia
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Pauly
I have had a search in the most reliable of Wirral Marriage
(plus other sites)
http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~cprdb
There are plenty of Mary Dodds & George Upton's but not married to each other.I think i did see a marriage in Manchester Cathedral,but my computer went funny and the page dissapeared ::) I think it was on U.K B.M.D. Lanashire
Celia
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Thanks for looking Celia. The marriage should be in the official records as I'm sure it's post 1837, but I can't find it: never mind!
Pauly
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Pauly
I did your lookup at the library to day from 1842-1848 No Marraige found sorry.
I know Upton is a common name,but i found a marriage 1849 for A Thomas Upton and Mary Hughs a widow.The father of Thomas was also Thomas ::) Thought i would mention it just in case ;)
Celia
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Hi Celia, would you be kind enough to look up a marriage for me. I am looking for Thomas Dodson (maybe Dodgson) and Martha Stanley, I am assuming it will be St. Hilary as their first 2 children were baptised there in 1829 and 1831, so I would guess the marriage would be mid-late 1820's. If possible I would also like to find the groom's father's name/occupation and any witnesses. Thanks in advance.
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Celia - I thought you might be interested to know (or maybe not), that I found the marriage I was looking for. They DID get married in Liverpool. A few of my ancestors living in Seacombe must have found it easier to take the ferry to get married than to traipse up to St Hilary before they built St Paul's in Seacombe. That's my theory anyway!
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Hi Paulychops
sorry for the latereply,i have been offline Thank for letting me know you found the marriage.It was popular for wirral folk to marry in liverpool,it was probably a bit like going abroad and added to the excitement of getting married
Celia
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Jool
I replied to your request i have just seen it didnt arrive ??? I did look in my index. Sorry no marraige found.Rootschat has been very sticky tha last few months the pages take much longer to download than they used to.So the reply must have got lost in transit :) even the spellcheck takes ages :)
Celia
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Hi Celia
I note you have listed a marriage in 1823 between James Derbyshire and Maria Evans, do you have any further info on this, ages or people in attendance.
many thanks
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Hello Polestar
I just have the index but i can give you that information from the entry. I can do that tomorrow for you. My email is still down so i am not getting the replies from rootschat. So will check back later
Celia
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Celia
many thanks
Polestar
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Polestar
James Derbyshire of this Parish Batchelor
And Maria Evans of next parish spinster
Were married in this church by banns with the confent of??
On 28th Day of January In the year 1823
The Marriage was Folemnized by us
James Derbyshire, (Name is written in for him and he left his Marx +)
Maria Evans (signed her own Name)
In the Presents of Richard Jones (Signed own Name)
And Mary Jones Left her mark.
The couples that married in St Hilary 90% of them local, their children
Were more than likely to be baptized there. So because the occupation
Of the male isn’t on the Marriage certs I looked for any children.
Baptisms Solemnized In the Parish of Wallasey in the County of Chester.
1824 Aug 29th James, Parents Christian Names James & Maria
Surname Derbyshire. Abode Liscard Trade Labr
They still lived Liscard & James was still a Labr in the Following years
When the other children were christened.
1826. October 10th Thomas
1828. Jan 11th William Son of James & Maria
1831 July 24th John, Son of James & Maria.
Because they were Married by Banns and had the confent of
Maria was probably under age.
Celia
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Celia
many many thanks for this.
Polestar
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Polestar
I forgot to say that there might be more children but i didn't have time to look past 1831. I had to get back home for a visitor ;D
Celia
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I am going to need this topic shortly so i am bringing it up again to be stickied. Not confined to pre 1839 Now ;D
Celia