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Im really interested to know about the genealogy of Alexander Glass, I know he was married to Mary Stewart and had a daughter Rosina. He (or his parents) came from Bushmills Ireland and lived in Kilbirnie Ayrshire Scotland. Rosina was born in Bushmills in 1878
Any ideas or help greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Joseph
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I see they had two other children William John 20 April 1876 and Alexander 16 June 1880
Can be found on FamilySearch Ireland Births and Baptisms. https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1584963?collectionNameFilter=false
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More children by the time of 1901 census when the family is in Kilbirnie, but all born in Ireland as were both Alexander & Mary.
If Alexander died in Scotland, then his parents' names would be shown on the death entry (if known to the informant of course). The entry would be viewable on ScotlandsPeople for a small fee.
Nell
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This looks like them In the 1901 census address Waterhouse Kilbirnie
Alexander Glass age 46 b Ireland occupation boiler maker in chemical works
Mary Glass age 45 b Ireland
John age 23 .works in chemical distiller
Rosena 21 linen thread spreader
Mary age 17 dressmaker .Eliza 13, George 11, James 9, Meta 3 all born Ireland
Quite a few members of this family went overseas ....As Nell said you can try www.scotlandspeople.gov for a death for Alexander and Mary that will give you their parents names to take you further back
Rosie
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Hi all ,
From SP , Mary Glass(other surname Stewart) death 1918 , Kilbirnie Ayr , born c1857 , looks likely.
That will show you if Alexander was still alive at that time and help narrow down a search for his death(if he died in Scotland).
ev
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If Alexander went to the US then there is this on Familysearch.Org;
(Yes he did, see next post)
Alexander GLASS
Age 71, Widowed
Occp Elevator Operator
Birth: 1856 Ireland
Death:12 May 1928
Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Burial: 14 May 1928 Westchester, Mount Hope Cemetery
Residence: 569 W. 184th St.
Parents John GLASS and Rose CUNARD
Parents both born Ireland
Image of the Headstone has Buried same Grave;
LILLIAN Glass 1906-1947
ROBERT Glass 1905-1967
(On F/S also through Find A Grave)
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Looks good;
Marriage;
15 Jun 1929, Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Robert GLASS, Parents Alex GLASS and Mary STEWART
Lillian Catharine VIEBROCK, Parents Charles VIEBROCK and Catharine SCHNAKENBERG
Age 24 and 23
(Familysearch.Org)
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Did see that one Trish well done this looks like the immigration record arrival 29 October 1922 New York ...Alexander Glass age 60 storeman born Bushmills
Meta Glass age 21 domestic born Bushmills
Robert Glass age 19 born Kilbirnie labourer
Address where came from daughter Mrs Annie Hood 7,Montgomery Street Kilbirnie
going to daughter Mrs Elis Salt 53,Lurting Street Corona New York
Rosie
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Possible marriage 1875 in Scotland (should list both sets of parents)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYQX-QL5
Births in Bushmills district- father Glass, mother Stewart:
William 20 Apr.1876
Rosina 16 June 1878
Alexander 16 July 1880
Mary 16 June 1883
Eliza 7 Oct.1885
Eliza 28 Sept.1887
George 10 Apr.1890
James [can't find in GRONI's database]
Robert 27 Apr.1895
Morgaret 17 July 1897 [should be Margaret]- Meta
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Robert and Lillian had a son Robert J Glass born 15 August 1942 and passed away 26 August 2011 New York - Last Residence 07666 Teaneck, Bergen, New Jersey.
Sandra
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http://www.mytrees.com/ancestry-family/gl000060-1.html
Sandra
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Possible for George Stuart Glass - Lewisville, Chester, South Carolina 1920
George Glass 28 Born Scotland. Automobile Mechanic.
Mary E Glass 24 Born South Carolina.
George C Glass 2 years 3 months.
Mary E Glass 4 months.
New York Passenger List shows George Glass born Bushmills, Ireland arriving New York 26 March 1913 on the Columbia. Father Alex Glass Kilbirnie. Going to Port Monmouth NJ - manifest marking indicates naturalization in 1936. Going to Uncle John Glass. Port Monmouth. NJ.
Sandra
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Main Street Edgemoor, Chester, South Carolina 1930
George S Glass 37 Mary H Glass 33
Georgia C Glass 12 Mary E Glass 10 Laurence S Glass 5
Highway Edgemoor, Chester, South Carolina 1940
George Glass 48 Mary Glass 42
Georgia Glass 22 Stewart Glass 15
Sandra
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George Stewart Glass - 30 May 1892 passed away 21 October 1960 - Chester, South Carolina. Aged 68 years - Certificate Number 014888 - fractured skull - hit by persons unknown. Burial Edgemoor Cemetery 22/10/1960 - Informant Mrs MaryCulp Glass.
Sandra
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Also naturalization 30/4/1924
John Glass born Bushmills Ireland 30 April 1876 ...Married 1 August 1913 Kilbirnie Ayrshire wife Annie son Ales b 1903 ..Last address was Glengarnock Kilbirnie ..address 2322 Loring Pl Bronx N Y
Rosie
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Edith Glass - bornn 1904 Scotland. Passed away 22 October 1942 - Queens County, New York - aged 39 years -
Edith appears on New York Passenger List 24 October 1921 - Assyria - father Alexander Glass Montgomery Street Kilbirnie. Going to sister Mrs Lizzie Salt - Corona Long Island.
Edith born Kilbirnie Scotland arrived New York 6 Sept 1925 - Cameronia - domestic servant - sister Mrs Annie Hood - Montgomery Street Kilbirnie. Father Alexander Glass 30 - 97 Street Corona NY
44 th Street Queens, Queens, New York 1930
Charles Charity 27 Married at 24 years.
Edith Charity 26 Married at 23 years.
Charles R Charity 2 Born New York.
79 Street New York, Queens, New York 1940
Charles Charity 37 Edith Charity 35
Charles R Charity 12 years Son Charity 7 years
Sandra
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Charles A Charity and Edith Glass married 24 Aprilo 1927 Queens New York
http://italiangen.org/records-search/grooms.php
Sandra
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Charles Robert Charity - 25 January 1928 passed away 1 August 1999 - parents - Charles A Charity
Mother Edith Glass - Last Residence 91105 Pasadena, Los Angeles, California.
Sandra
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http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/AYRSHIRE/1999-04/0924386106
Sandra
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Rosina Mary Glass - 1878–1969 born 16 June 1878 - Bushmills, Northern Ireland, passed away 10 May 1969 - Bowmanville, Durham, Ontario.
Rosina (Glass) Barclay - Mt Lawn Memorial Gardens (Block 6) Durham Whitby WO-
http://ocfa.islandnet.com/ocfa-search.php
Obituary for Gordon Alexander Barclay 23 April 1951 son of Andrew Barclay - passed away 4 October 2012.
Andrew Barclay was the son of Rosina Glass and George Barclay.
http://www.obitsforlife.com/obituary/584369/Barclay-Gordon.php
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - Meta Glass - Meta Paton - 17 July 1897 Republic of Ireland passed away 3 April 1996 - Alexander Glass and mother Mary Stewart.
Last Residence 12446 Kerhonkson, Ulster, New York.
Appeared on New York Passenger List - 29 October 1922 on the Cameronia. That was the passenger list Rosie mentioned in reply 7
44 th Street Queens, New York 1930
George Paton 30 Meta Paton 31 Born Scotland. Imm 1922. First married at 25 years.
William Paton 6 Born New York.
Sandra
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U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007 - William Paton - 2 September 1923 Flushing Que, New York - passed away 31 December 1994 - Last Residence 12446 Kerhonkson, Ulster, New York.
Sandra
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James Glass 1896 also in the USA - St Nicholas Ave 1930 Manhattan, New York
James Glass 35 - Asst Manager telephone Co. Imm 1926. First Papers. First married at 28 years.
Janet Glass 34 - First marriage at 23 years.
Mary S Glass 12 Born Scotland.
Isabella F Glass 10 Born Scotland.
Alexander Glass 9 Born Scotland.
Sandra
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FIND A GRAVE
James Glass - 9 September 1892 - Bushmills, County Antrim, Northern Ireland.
Burial Mount Hope Cemetery Hastings-on-Hudson Westchester County New York.
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=110665922&ref=acom
wife - Janet 27 August 1894 - 27 July 1981
children -
Isabel F Glass Barnes passed away - 18 March 2015 New Orleans, Louisiana.
http://obits.nola.com/obituaries/nola/obituary-preview.aspx?n=isabel-f-glass-barnes&pid=174412152&referrer=2
Mary G. Kibbler 1918 Dalry Ayrshire - 1993- Last Residence 08859 Parlin, Middlesex, New Jersey.
Parents James Glass - Mother Janet McDonald
Sandra
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This is a possible for Alexander Glass (son of James Glass and Janet McDonald) born 8 March 1921 and passed away 5 May 2011 - Last Residence 11793 Wantagh, Nassau, New York.
Sandra
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Interestingly there is an ancestry tree (with photographs) that quotes the parents of Alexander Glass born 1852 were Alexander Glass and Rose Kinnaird. Something for you to check out if the owner of the tree is not you
They show a brother John H Glass born in Scotland in 1844 who married Janetta Rogers 23 Jun 1864 - Greenock New or Middle, Renfrewshire, Scotland - tried to check who the parents were but Scotlands People would not load the document ::)
IFthat information is correct, this is John with his wife and children in the USA 1870 Middletown, Monmouth, New Jersey -
John Glass 26 Born Scotland.
Jenette Glass 27 Born Scotland
James Glass 4 Born NJ John Glass 3 Born NJ
Matilda Glass 9 months Born NJ
Jane Johnson 37 Domestic Service.
Middletown, Monmouth, New Jersey 1880
John Glass 35 Janetta Glass 36
John W. Glass 12 Matilda Glass 10
Rosanna Glass 9 Lizzie Glass 4
Minnie Glass 2
Sandra
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Looks like John born 12 July 1844 passed away 27 January 1916
Burial Fair View Cemetery Middletown Monmouth County New Jersey
Plot: Plot U-804/4
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=GL&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=33&GScntry=4&GSsr=801&GRid=19152954&
Sandra
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Something for you to check out - Alexander Glass - born 1814 - Ireland passed away 1 March 1880 - Ballymoney, Antrim, Northern Ireland. Married Rose Kinnaird - 1841 - Diocese Down, Connor and Dromore. Rose Kinnaird - Born 1803 passed away 9 March 1897 - Ballymoney, Antrim, Northern Ireland
Sandra
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Elizabeth Glass/Salt - 40 St - Queens Assembly District 3, Queens, New York.
Albert Salt 32
Elizabeth Salt 30 Born Scotland. Imm 1914.
Gladys Salt 4
FIND A GRAVE
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=114882860&ref=acom
Husband Albert E Salt appears to be interred at Fair View Cemetery Middletown Monmouth County
New Jersey. Perhaps you could contact the cemetery and see if Elizabeth is also there ???
Sandra
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1852 - 1928 - Alexander Glass
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I am a relative of Joseph who originated this message 😊
Alexander Glass is the son of Rosina Kinnaird and Alexander Glass mentioned by Sandra. John Glass listed above who died in New Jersey was their son as well as James who died in Scotland.That is as far as we back as we can go so far. Any help appreciated.
Heather
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So Joseph is the owner of the ancestry tree ? You really need to know where in Ireland Alexander Glass born about 1820 came from in Ireland. ? There are not a lot of irish records available in that time frame unfortunately.
Sorry should have said "Warm Welcome to RootsChat"
Sandra
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Hi Sandra,
Again your help is fantastic, thankyou.
No Im not the owner of the link you posted, I dont know where that came from or if the system generated it somehow. But I did start this discussion.
The Glass family, came from Bushmills in the north of ireland, we have traced back a few generations to Rose/Rosina Kinnaird who seems to have come from ballymoney ireland, with her husband, Alexander Glass from Bushmills.
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Thank you Sandra... You have offered a lot of information.
We don't know where Alexander came from in Ireland.
From what we see Rose Kinnaird was a bit older than Alexander... Maybe she was married previously?
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If you post the details that you already have found and tell us exactly what you'd like help with it would save us from searching for and posting details you already know.
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More children by the time of 1901 census when the family is in Kilbirnie, but all born in Ireland as were both Alexander & Mary.
If Alexander died in Scotland, then his parents' names would be shown on the death entry (if known to the informant of course). The entry would be viewable on ScotlandsPeople for a small fee.
Nell
This seems to be the best course to follow first.
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we actually know very little and what you have given us is fantastic....
we are a little bit stuck with going back beyond Alexander Glass, in fact we arent even clear on where he came from except "ireland"
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If Alexander went to the US then there is this on Familysearch.Org;
(Yes he did, see next post)
Alexander GLASS
Age 71, Widowed
Occp Elevator Operator
Birth: 1856 Ireland
Death:12 May 1928
Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Burial: 14 May 1928 Westchester, Mount Hope Cemetery
Residence: 569 W. 184th St.
Parents John GLASS and Rose CUNARD
Parents both born Ireland
Slight variation in the parents on the USA entry of the death of Alexander. Spelling variation for Kinnaird to Cunard ??? and Alexander is John. Maybe the informant did not have the correct information ???
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2W1K-Y2B
Sandra
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Something for you to check out - Alexander Glass - born 1814 - Ireland passed away 1 March 1880 - Ballymoney, Antrim, Northern Ireland. Married Rose Kinnaird - 1841 - Diocese Down, Connor and Dromore. Rose Kinnaird - Born 1803 passed away 9 March 1897 - Ballymoney, Antrim, Northern Ireland
Sandra
IF the above dates on Rose Glass was correct - could the entry for Rose Glass - born about 1803 and passed away Jan/Feb/Mar 1897 Coleraine - volume 1 page 461 be correct on the Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 - rather than Ballymoney, Antrim shown on the ancestry tree ???
Sandra
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The only entry I found so far for an Alexander was one born 1809 (so age out) and passed away Apr/May/June 1879 aged 70 years Ballymoney - Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 - volume 1 page 134.
Sandra
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Reply 27 by Sandra is the most we know about Alexander and Rosina. Also children John James Alexander and supposedly a daughter. Do not know where Alexander and Rosina were born.Sorry for confusion appreciate all your help 😊
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Sandra death record informer was not correct. Thanks
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GRONI-
Rose Glass, age 94, died 9 Mar.1897 Ballymoney district (Bushmills sub-district)
Alexander Glass, age 70, died 30 May 1879 Ballymoney district (Dervock sub-district)
Alexander Glass, age 66, died 1 Mar.1880 Ballymoney district (Bushmills sub-district)
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Sandra as far as place of death for Rose.. The dates are right but not sure about discrepency with place of death.
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I've just posted the details from GRONI's index showing Rose Glass' death registered in Bushmills.
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Alexander died March 1 1880 as far as I know
Thank you aghadowey
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Alexander died March 1 1880 as far as I know
Thank you aghadowey
Does that mean that you haven't gotten the death certificates for Alexander & Rose :-\
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Yes We have it and it lists Rose as wife so we assume it is the same Rose and Alexander. But there is no parents listed or place of birth.
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Yes We have it and it lists Rose as wife so we assume it is the same Rose and Alexander. But there is no parents listed or place of birth.
Parents and place of birth aren't listed on Irish death certificates. However, Alexander & Rose's marriage certificate should provide more detail-
Possible marriage 1875 in Scotland (should list both sets of parents)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XYQX-QL5
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We don't have the certificate for Rosina and Alexander. We have a screen shot of an entry in a record book from a church.
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This belonged with reply 25 - Scotlands People would'nt down load it for me the other day but they have sorted the problem now.
Sandra
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Thanks Sandra. This is the brother of Alexander and still no place of birth that I can see.
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Hi everyone! My great grandfather was George Glass son of Alexander Glass and Mary Stewart. I haven't been able to get back past beyond Alexander. Does anyone have any leads?
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Hello
We are related.... I am granddaughter of George's brother James.
Heather
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Great! Based on the threat it looks like you all have found Alexander's parents. And it looks like they were Irish? How funny I always was told that we were Scottish. I know Glass is a Scottish clan/sept of the Stuart of Bute clan. Any luck beyond that? I am interested in doing more research.
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George and James were born in Ireland and well as several other siblings.
I was also told we were Scottish and it could still be that Alexander's parents were Scots living in Ireland.
I have been researching with the great granddaughter of Rosina Glass sister of George and James. We have gotten as far as Alexander's parents and some of his siblings.
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Annie
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Thanks I didn't know how to do that 😊
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Rosina Glass married George Barclay, and moved to Kilburnie Scotland. Rosina was my great paternal grandmother. She died in Oshawa, Ontario, Canada in 1969. My Father was a son of John, the oldest of 8 boys and one daughter. Except there was a much older son named Robert, I am guessing that she had him before she married George.