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Title: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 11:04 BST (UK)
Hello Peeps

I need a search done at LMA as I live in south of France. Anyone willing to help?

The search will be through the St Giles in the Fields Parish records between 1750-1820, especially seeking a birth entry in 1789 for a Faustin Jeffery

Thanks
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 May 16 12:55 BST (UK)
Could he be the same Faustin Jeffery who is possibly married to a Catherine but living in St Luke Middlesex in 1841 occ Shoe maker -not born in county.  In 1851 he is in St Giles, Cripplegate born Huntspill, Somerset

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKV2-HLY5
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 12:56 BST (UK)
that is him
it says though in an 1807 newspaper article that he was born in st Giles Middlesex
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 May 16 13:06 BST (UK)
There is also an obituary in March 1866 which says 'March 8th in London, Mr Faustin Jeffery late of  Cannington, Somerset age 77
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 05 May 16 13:09 BST (UK)
I see he deserted in the 1807 article , maybe he was still 'in hiding' in the early census  ;D
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dawnsh on Thursday 05 May 16 13:12 BST (UK)
Researchers who visit the LMA are few and far between but I know of 2 who may be able to help.

I'll send a pm and see what happens.
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 05 May 16 13:36 BST (UK)
Somerset as birth place seems to be leading Middlesex 3 to 1 so far. There is a younger Faustin jeffery (b abt 1841 /2) who marries in 1864, father henry (deceased) warehouseman. With such an unusual name they could possibly be related. Might be worth looking for henry, he could be your Faustin's brother. On the 1851, young Faustin is with his grandmother Ann Ingersole (widow) and his aunt Sophia. there is a marriage for Mary Ann Jeffery widow to William Searls widower on 12 may 1861. her father is John Ingersole game keeper. 
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 16:17 BST (UK)
Faustin is in 1841 and 1851 censuses but not 1861
Faustin junior is my fustian's grandson, henry being Faustin senior's son
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 16:32 BST (UK)
I just found william and mary ann living next door to Faustin junior
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: spendlove on Thursday 05 May 16 16:47 BST (UK)
Hi,

Can you give details of the 1807 Newspaper article?

ie  which newspaper, date and why was he wanted?

I have searched but cannot find the article.

Spendlove

Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: spendlove on Thursday 05 May 16 17:09 BST (UK)
Hi,

Forget my last post - have found the answer to my question on one of your other posts about
Faustin.

Google search, suggests that he married in Dublin 1811 have you found this marriage?

Spendlove
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: spendlove on Thursday 05 May 16 17:10 BST (UK)
Hi,

Forget my last post - have found the answer to my question on one of your other posts about
Faustin.

Google search, suggests that he married in Dublin 1811 have you found this marriage?  Some
of his children also born Ireland have you found any christenings

Spendlove
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 17:16 BST (UK)
Morning Advertiser 1807 December
wanted for desertion
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: LizzieL on Thursday 05 May 16 17:26 BST (UK)
Hi,

Forget my last post - have found the answer to my question on one of your other posts about
Faustin.

Google search, suggests that he married in Dublin 1811 have you found this marriage?

Spendlove

If someone born in Somerset or Middlesex married in Dublin then came back to England, he might have gone back to the army. I have three men in my tree who were born in England and I thought they had lived all their lives quite close to their birthplaces but all had one child born in Ireland. I thought it was a mistake on the census record until I had found they had all done a spell in the army and one had married in Ireland as well.   
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Thursday 05 May 16 20:24 BST (UK)
Not sure he was back in the army given he had deserted in 1807, my cousin is going to try to do a search for him
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 06 May 16 08:21 BST (UK)
One other thought, in the 1807 newspaper report he was described as a shoemaker by trade as well as being a drummer in the army. He was only 18 so unlikely to have served a full apprenticeship as a shoemaker by then. Perhaps a family member was a shoemaker and he learnt from them rather than a formal apprenticeship.
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Friday 06 May 16 08:38 BST (UK)
Hello

yes you could be right there. The family I think he comes from though were landed gentry, but i as the family think he fled home after a quarrel he may have had to get a trade and quick
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 06 May 16 11:29 BST (UK)
The family I think he comes from though were landed gentry, but i as the family think he fled home after a quarrel he may have had to get a trade and quick

Maybe it would help us if you said who you thought he may be descended from  :-\

Rosie
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: LizzieL on Friday 06 May 16 12:00 BST (UK)
There seem to have been a lot of previous posts on this family
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=347132.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=347360.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=378991.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=589103.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=472966.9
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=548980.0
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=747422.0

I think we're just going over a lot of old ground
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: rosie99 on Friday 06 May 16 12:09 BST (UK)
They are interesting links Lizzie  ;D

Dismo,

Did you pursue this
I suspect that Hasquin Jeffs was in fact Faustin Jeffery

In 1851 census Faustin said that he was born in Hunstpill

Hasquin was born in Bridgwater four miles away

I saw him in a bridgwater parish register transcript

his parents william and betty Jeffs
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Friday 06 May 16 12:50 BST (UK)
I suspect that Faustin was also named John at birth and was the son of Saunders and Nancy Jeffery of Huntspill, Somerset
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Friday 06 May 16 13:07 BST (UK)
Saunders' will stated that he left a sum to his son John (if he be still living)
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: gothitjulie on Sunday 15 May 16 02:03 BST (UK)
Hello Peeps

I need a search done at LMA as I live in south of France. Anyone willing to help?

The search will be through the St Giles in the Fields Parish records between 1750-1820, especially seeking a birth entry in 1789 for a Faustin Jeffery

Thanks

Checked St Giles In The Fields baptisms for 1789 & 1790 & couldn't find him there. The records are quite poor so I can't be 100% certain. St Giles In The Fields baptisms at this time run to around 1000 baptisms per year so any search could take quite some time.
Title: Re: Research at the London Metropolitan Archive
Post by: dismo on Sunday 15 May 16 09:29 BST (UK)
Thank you so much for looking, the other thing is that he may have been baptised at St Giles Cripplegate, where he was living in 1851

Simon