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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: Irish Cowboy on Wednesday 27 April 16 21:15 BST (UK)
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Hello
Am trying to track down Dawson family ancestry, Only thing i have is a telegram that was sent
form Glasgow to Londonderry it reads as follows
Mother died suddenly 19/5/1955 address on telegram 251 lower street Glasgow sent by Mr George Dawson , not sure why is was in Moore home in Derry, Northern Ireland....
Any Help would be gratefully welcomed THANKS in advance
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If you go to www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk and invest in a few credits, you can in theory find and view all deaths in 1955. However even restricting the search to females aged over 30 and dying in Lanarkshire there are 19 results.
Maybe someone could suggest which registration district Lower Street was in in 1955.
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From the Evening Times on 21st May 1955 (Google Newspapers) -
Mary Jane Ramsay Dawson, wife of the late Walter William Dawson of 251 Cowie ( not Lower) Street, Glasgow. Funeral private
Isobel
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Mary Jane Ramsey, daughter of William, married 3 June 1918 Belfast to Walter William Dawson, son of Thomas. You can view the certificate on GRONI's site after registering and purchasing credits-
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
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This is probably a long shot but anyone know how old Mary Jane Ramsey Dawson was when she died?
I have records for a MaryJane Ramsey, daughter of William which might be a possibility if there's a Derry connection.
I'm also wondering if this is the same Walter William Dawson- born c1875 Ireland:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBG-SB9G
Or this one born in England?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Skipton_Street/1261068/
Irish Finder- do you know where in Derry the Moore family would have lived?
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This is probably a long shot but anyone know how old Mary Jane Ramsey Dawson was when she died?
The index at SP suggests that she was 68, which, if accurate, gives a birth year of 1886/1887.
The death certificate will tell you the full names of both her parents, assuming that the informant knew this.
Walter William Dawson died in Scotland in 1943, aged 68. This tallies with a birth in 1874/1875. His death certificate will confirm the name of his wife and tell you the full names of both his parents, assuming the informant knew this.
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Thanks for those additional details. Not the Mary Jane Ramsey I was hoping for but I do have another possibility-
Mary Jane Ramsey born 13 Aug.1886 Londonderry (father William, mother Jane Black)
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Aghadowey,
I know that you have helped me out in the past with my Derry families.
I have a few spare credits for SP and obtained the 1955 Dc for Mary Jane Dawson, Ms Ramsey.
She was indeed the widow of Walter Dawson and the daughter of William Ramsey and Jane Black
Informant was her son, Alfred Dawson
She died in the Royal Samaritan Hospital
EDIT:
Walter William Dawson died 16 Mar 1943 at 133 Balornock Road (which most of us know was Barnhill Hospital/poorhouse)
He was the son of Thomas Dawson and Sophie Esther Manger ?
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anne,
Is it possible to post a portion please with Sophie Esther's details as the surname may possibly be Mangan?
Annie
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Walter William Dawson
Born 17 Oct 1874
St Pierre Port,Guernsey,Channel Islands
Father: Thomas Dawson
Mother: Sophie Esther Manger
1881 Guernsey.
This is the family
Thomas Dawson 48 B Whitehaven MASTER MARINER as per 1943 DC for Walter
Sophia Dawson 42 B Guernsey
Alice Dawson 18
Arthur Dawson 15
Emilie Dawson 13
Herbert Dawson 9
Walter Dawson 6 *
Matilda Maindonal 34
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Hello
Thankyou for your replies am now starting to connect the famly yes the mary jane is daughter of william ramsay and jane black , am trying to get sons n daughters as mother JanecBlack died before 1901 But cant find death or were buried her husband remarried in 1905/06 ,
Th Ramsay family in Derry lost touch with Dawson side of there family , the grewt nephew of Mary is hoping to connect
Thankyou all again
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Walter William Dawson
Born 17 Oct 1874
St Pierre Port,Guernsey,Channel Islands
Father: Thomas Dawson
Mother: Sophie Esther Manger
Thanks anne,
Now that you have the birth the surname seems to be Manger.......I was using the Irish link to an Irish name with there being a ? next to Manger & Mangan seemed a close fit.
Annie
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Is this connected?
Derry Journal 14 Aug 1891
Ramsay- Moore
Aug 10th at the second Presbyterian Church, Ballymoney by the Rev JB Armour.
William, son of the late William Ramsay Esq, Ballybracken, Doah. To Sara Elizabeth, daughter of William Moore, Ballymoney
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Many thanks, Anne. Will add the details to my Ramsey files... when I can find all of it. In the last year my office was reduced to another room a third of its size, my computer stopped speaking to me and is still holding my files hostage, have had an auction and large part of books were sold, then moved house not once but twice in 3 months. So, today finally was the start of sorting boxes of family trees, etc.