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Am doing some research in the Kent family from New Ross. Mary Josephine Kent married David Harper, parents were John and Elizabeth Kent (nee byrne). John's family were Jane (nee Burr) and John Kent, then Simon and Helen Kent.
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Do you have any dates, what decade?
Cas
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Yes we have a couple of generations during the 1800s. My grandmother was Mary Josephine Kent born in 1907, her parents were John and Elizabeth Kent. He was born in Bombay, India in 1881, Elizabeth was born in 1880 in Dublin - not sure who her parents were. Her maiden name was Byrne. John's parents were John (New Ross in 1843) and Jane Kent (nee Burr) 1855 - not sure where she was born or the names of other siblings. John's parents were Simon and Helen Kent. I have no further information. Am visiting New Ross soon and know that the name is common in this area.
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Have you found any of the family in 1901 and 1911 yet? I tried quite a few searches, including looking for John Kent born India, without matches to what you've posted.
Is this the family in 1911? John and rest of family born Dublin-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay__part_of_/Bride_Street__New__Iveagh_Trust_Buildings_/75005
daughter Lillie 5 months not years old-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000202493/
Births- father Kent/mother Byrne (all Dublin):
Mary 27 Apr.1907
Jane 13 Jan.1909
Elizabeth 6 Oct.1910
Eileen 6 May 1912
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John Kent & Lillie Byrne married 14 Oct.1906 Dublin-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/a4af786761546
Could 'Jane Burr' have been Jane Burke?
Jane Kent bapt.1893- http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/8f53140262487
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Marriage of Ellen Kent, parents John & Jane, gives Jervis St. address-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/84cf7c0062050
Which leads to this family- John Kent, army pensioner born New Ross, wife Jane born Limerick, daughter Ellen born India, 2 children born England but a son born Edinburgh (his birth certificate will list date & place of parents' marriage)-
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_City/Jervis_Street/1332794/
Another daughter, Teresa, married 1897- mother's maiden name Bart-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/37c6e10060821
A Jane Kent sponsor at 1898 baptism (family address also 57 Jervis St.)-
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/a45e8e0135055
John Kent & 2 daughters in 1911- he's a widower & pensioner from Royal Irish Fusiliers, 1 daughter born Edinburgh, other in Dublin:
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Gardiner_Street__Lower/24249
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000064356/
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Theresa (Kent) O'Neill in 1901 (born India) with sisters Jane & Elizabeth (1911 the girls are living with father) & a son Charles O'Neill age 2-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/North_Dock/Upper_Gloucester_St_/1329739
Florence Kent married 29 Jan.1911 Dublin to Francis Cullen-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Summerhill/29851
son John born 4 Dec.1911-
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9388b30307244
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Charles Kent in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Rutland_Cottages_off_Rutland_Street__Lower/30996
Thomas Purcell & Ellen Kent- 1911 says 4 children but only 3 living-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Gardiner_Street__Lower/24339
Births- father Purcell/mother Kent (Dublin)-
John born 29 May 1902
Mary born 3 May 1911
Births (India)- parents John & Jane Kent-
William John (1872) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG3V-KYM
Edward (1874) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGQY-BLQ
Briget (1875) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGQB-GF2
Ellen (1877) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG4X-4MN
John (1881) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGCW-Z5G
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Marriage of John Kent (son of Simon & Helen) 1871 Bengal to Jane Both (daughter of William & Bridget)-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNP-SLC
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Outline tree-
?Simon Kent m.(9 Apr.1837 Wexford) Ellenora Myler
John Kent (c1843 New Ross-aft.1911), son of Simon & Helen, m.(1871 India) Jane [Burr/Both/Burke/Burt?] (c1853 Limerick?-1901/1911)
1891 census- 228 Morrison St., Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland (St. Cuthbert’s Parish): wife Jane Kent, 35, Ireland; dau. Bridget T. Kent, 15, East Indies; son Henry Kent, 7, East Indies; son Charles A. Kent, 5, England; dau. Florence Kent, 3, England; dau. Elizabeth M. Kent, 1, St. Cuthbert; son Bertram Kent, 5 mo., St. Cuthbert; son John Kent, 9, East Indies.
Possible burials in Glasnevin: 1908 Jane Kent (age 54), 1911 John Kent (age 68)
1. William John Kent (1872 India-1952) m. Mary Cuddy- see next post
2. Edward Kent (1874 India)
3. Bridget Teresa Kent (1876 India-aft.1901) m.(1897 Dublin) Charles O’Neill- see reply #11
1. Charles O’Neill (c1899 Dublin-aft.1901)
4. Ellen Kent (1877 India-aft.1911) m,(1901 Dublin) Thomas Purcell
1. John Purcell (29 May 1902 Dublin)
2. Jane Purcell (c1905 England)
3. Michael Purcell (c1908 England)
4. Child (d.bef.1911)
5. Mary Purcell (3 May 1911 Dublin)
5. John Kent (1881 India-aft.1911) m.(14 Oct.1906 Dublin) Elizabeth “Lillie” Byrne (c1880 Dublin-aft.1912)
1. Mary Josephine Kent (27 Apr.1907 Dublin)
2. Jane Kent (13 Jan.1909 Dublin)
3. Elizabeth Kent (6 Oct.1910 Dublin)
4. Eileen Kent (6 May 1912 Dublin)
6. Henry Kent (c1884 India-aft.1891)
7. Charles A. "Charlie" Kent (c1886 Aldershot, England-aft.1911)
8. Florence Kent (c1888 Manchester, England-aft.1911) m.(29 Jan.1911 Dublin) Francis Cullen
1. John Cullen (4 Dec.1911 Dublin)
9. Elizabeth M. “Lizzie” Kent (c1890 Edinburgh, Scotland-aft.1915)
10. Bertram Kent (1890 Edinburgh, Scotland-aft.1891)
11. Jane “Jennie” Kent (c1893 Dublin-aft.1915)
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1. William John Kent (1872 India)
William Kent, born Calcutta East Indies, joined army (Royal Irish Fusiliers) 8 Sept.1886 at Aldershot age 14 (5' tall, fresh complexion, blue eyes, red hair, Roman Catholic), appointed drummer 7/2/87, South Africa 1899-1903, parents: John 2nd Bn. Royal Irish Fusiliers & Jane; discharged Dublin 7/9/1907, intended residence- 12 Lower Gardiner St.
WWI Service Record- William Kent, 43, miner?, previously- Royal Irish Fusiliers, joined 12 Oct.1915 Royal Inniskilling Fusiliers, height 5' 7", next of kin- Miss Elizabeth Kent & Miss Jane Kent (sisters) 1 Swifts Rd. Ormond Quay Dublin, discharged 7/3/1919
1903- Holywood then Ballykinler then Holywood (all in County Down, now Northern Ireland)
Death certificate: William John Kent, Private R.I. Fusiliers (pensioner), married to Mary Cuddy, died 13 Nov.1952 at 24 Hozier St. Tannochside, broncho-pneumonia, father- John Kent regular soldier (deceased), mother- Jane Kent maiden surname Burt, informant- nephew-in-law John Hopkins of 25 Babylon Rd. Bellshill.
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3. Bridget Teresa Kent (1876 India-aft.1901) m.(1897 Dublin) Charles O’Neill- see reply #11
1. Charles O’Neill (c1899 Dublin-aft.1901)
2. Jenny O’Neill (May 1903 Glasgow)
3. Maggie O’Neill (Nov.1908 Mossend)
4. William O’Neill (June 1912 Mossend)
? Elizabeth O'Neill (mother Kent) born 9 June 1912 Dublin
WWI Pension Record-
Charles O'Neill, age 43, 5' 7", next of kin- (wife) Mrs. Teresa O'Neill 9 Marion [Merrion?] St. Mossend Lanarkshire (married Dublin), enlisted 27 Feb.1915 Hamilton, discharged 14/12/1918
Previous service- 13th Hussars (Charles O'Neill age 20y 11mo., born Parish of Magherafelt Co.Derry, joined 16 May 1891 Edinburgh [another copy says Glasgow], discharged 1902, address- 57 Jervis St. Dublin
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5. John Kent (1881 India-aft.1914) m.(14 Oct.1906 Dublin) Elizabeth “Lillie” Byrne (c1880 Dublin-1913/1914)
1. Mary Josephine Kent (27 Apr.1907 Dublin)- Army records born 15 Apr.1906 Dublin & 27 Apr.1907 Rotunda Hospital
2. Jane Kent (13 Jan.1909 Dublin)- Army records born 16 Aug.1910 Dublin & Jennie Jane born 13 Jan.1909 Iveagh Bldgs New Bride St.
3. Elizabeth Kent (6 Oct.1910 Dublin)- not listed in 1914 Army records & Lillie Elizabeth born 16 Oct.1910 Iveagh Bldgs
4. Eileen Kent (6 May 1912 Dublin)- Army records born 15 Apr.1912 Dublin & born 6 May 1912 Iveagh Bldgs
WWI Pension record- John Kent enlisted 12 Aug.1914 Dublin, age 32y, labourer, widower, born 'Parish of Marlboro St. Dublin', previous service- Royal Irish Fusiliers, red hair, grey eyes, next of kin- (brother) William 9 Merrion St. Mossend Lanarkshire. Wife- Lillie Byrne married 14 Oct.1906 RC Cathedral[?] Marlboro St. Dublin (witnesses- Charlie Kent, Annie Byrne). Sister Miss Kent 2 Swifts Lane Dublin. Permanent address- 129 Clydesdale Bldgs, Mossend
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Thanks for all the information. It certainly filled in some gaps. Will visit the areas while in Dublin and New Ross.
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Some sections of Dublin will probably have changed considerably over the years. You can see most places via Google Streetview to see what it looks like now.
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Wow, that is some information folks, thanks for your diligence!
I came here this evening from this article which is actually my Father's Mother's family: https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/2016-family-history/case-studies/john-purcell
And this lead us to Bengal and back to New Ross. My Mother is also a Byrne derivative, possibly wexford, so I may be related to myself.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGNP-SLW
http://griffiths.askaboutireland.ie/gv4/z/zoomifyDynamicViewer.php?file=284071&path=./pix/284/&rs=23&showpage=1&mysession=2736034427984&width=&height=
You may have this already, but a friend of mine is sending me loads of stuff this evening and I look forward to reading everything you have above. I also did the myheritage.com DNA test.
`Right, I need a drink.