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Hi
I am struggling with the Staffordshire census.....1851 1861 1871 I am tracing a line for Ann Chancellor, she appears then disappears, as does her father.
Her father is William and Ann was born in Darlaston ( waiting for a certificate ) 1852. Married James Davies in Newcastle u Lyme 19 Feb 1871.. Her father was a blacksmith as was James'
I cannot get back further than the 1871 census to track the ancesters. There is a blacksmith in 1841 but cannot be sure its the right one. In 1871 they lived with a relative Bailey Street once they married.
I have tried various sites for the census, made the name varient widened the dates to no avail. I cannot understand why I cannot find William in 1871 or 1861 then 1851 or Ann in 1861 they have to be there.... can you tell me any other ways to look up please......I m stumped and its not even close to the end of civil registration ..
Thanks
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1851 2021/126/15
One transcription of the name is 'Chaucklor'
Regards
Heywood
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1861 2009/134/37
William Chanhil and family
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I v e seen that Heywood and noted it... I cannot find anything for william 1871... or the family in 1861 when Ann would be nine... it has to be there some where.. I did wonder if they got damaged or something, but don t want to give up yet
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You have 1861 also now but as yet I can't see them in 1871
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Jane Chancellor (sister) is a servant on the 1871 -
George P Butler 34
Fanny Butler 33
Jane Chancellor serv 23 b. Darlaston, Staffordshire
RG10 Piece 2955 Folio 20 Page 5
Jane married William Beech in 1873
JJ
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1841 for the Chancellor family
William Chancellor 30 Blacksmith
Sarah Chancellor 25
Sarah Ann Chancellor 5
Abharam Chancellor 1
HO107 Piece 979 Folio 9 Page 9, Darlaston
JJ
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It would appear that William died 1875 and Sarah (wife) died 1876 so they should be around for the 1871 ???
JJ
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Thanks,, its very strange, I saw the servant one but it did not click in. They were definitely around for the wedding. The 1841... I feel confident on that one. but I wish I could fill it for definate with the in between years. .. Find it so strange,,,
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1871 she had to be in newcastle... they were living in pepper street ... on the wedding certificate.
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Is the address for both the bride and groom?
What number Pepper Street?
JJ
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Thanks,, its very strange, I saw the servant one but it did not click in. They were definitely around for the wedding. The 1841... I feel confident on that one. but I wish I could fill it for definate with the in between years. .. Find it so strange,,,
Do you not think the other censuses are your family?
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1871 2989 63/ 10
Abraham is married and living in Wednesbury.
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Hi thought you had the 1871 for Ann?:-
James Davies 20 occ Coal Miner
Ann 20 b Darlaston
Residing at Bailey Street. Newcastle-under-Lyme
Census ref RG10/2834/37/18
Keyboard86
EDIT this is the 1861 census supplied by Heywood:-
William CHANHIL 49 occ Blacksmith b Atherstone, Warwickshire
Sarah 46 b Coseley, Staffordshire
Abraham 21 occ Blacksmith b Darlaston
Jane 14 b Darlaston
ANN 9 b Darlaston
Residing Cock Street, Darlaston
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Jjen....yes the address was for both in Pepper st, i would think it was a lodging place then yes they are living with a relative after marriage in Bailey St,,, I like to "pack" out information to be sure I m probably right. I could n t find them in Pepper st, but 10 years is a long time.
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It doesn't look as though William and Sarah are recorded in 1871- or if they are, they are well hidden.
You could send for those death certificates which may point to an 1871 address.
Regards
Heywood
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Keyboard 86.....YES!! That seems to one,.... how much better is a second pair of eyes :)
I must of dismissed that one with it not being chancellor,,,, it is a difficult name... so I ll go back and get that....so thats 1861 i think. satisfied. I just wanted to check up where anns parents were in 1871 ... might seal the path.
My target is to get back to 1800 at least for all four lines of my grandparents.
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It doesn't look as though William and Sarah are recorded in 1871- or if they are, they are well hidden.
You could send for those death certificates which may point to an 1871 address.
Regards
Heywood
Good idea... yes, it could be they were living with someone....thats my next step before I go further.
Thanks so much
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There is a newspaper report of 1849, that poor William Chancellor suffered a very serious assault- teeth knocked out and head injuries. His assailant was charged.
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I never really think of looking in them places...my family are all potters and miners. These Blacksmiths are a bit of celebrity types :) :). But I will look at that.
I found Ann on the next page in the 1861 census... shows what another pair of eyes will spot. Also the name Meharane... in 1841 if you look closely is Abraham, which ties in nicely.
I think I have enough to move on now, I shall do some certificate ordering to certify, still not found william in 1871 but he will turn up I m sure.
Thank you all ever so much. I will be back I m sure, but I have learnt something....