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This is a long shot
Looking for my family line
James Jolly b.around 1799 m Elizabeth Teague ?
Children
John b.1839 (my 2nd g.grandfather), James w b. 1826, Henry b.1844, Richard b.1847, Eliza Ann b.1833, Elizabeth b.1830, Mary b.1837
I think most of these children immigrated to New Zealand living on the West Coast NZ,
I would like as much information and photos if possible
Thank You
Wayne Jolly
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Hi and welcome to Rootschat, this appears to be the family in 1841:-
James Jolly 40 occ Smith
Elizabeth 40
James 14
William 12
Richard 9
John 2
Elizabeth 10
Eliza 8
Mary 4
Residing at Shop, St Columb Minor, Cornwall
Census Ref HO107/149/ 8/16/ 15
James Jolly married Elizabeth Teague 2nd April 1825 St Columb Minor.
Baptism James Jolly 27th February 1799 St Enoder Father William Mother Margaret
Your ancestor John:-
Baptism John Jolly 5th April 1839 St Columb Minor Father James Mother Elizabeth
Cannot locate baptism for Elizabeth in St Columb Minor, but their is a Memorial Inscriptions transcription of her death :-
Elizabeth Jolly 10th December 1879 Parish Church St Columb Minor, James has similar 1st April 1882
Keyboard86
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Maybe?
Baptism, 16th January 18981798 at St Columb Minor
Elizabeth Teague, daughter of Anthony & Ann
(Notes: Byfield inserted after surname)
Burials
14th December 1879 at St Columb Minor
Elizabeth Jolly, age 82
Residence: Shop
7th April 1882 at St Columb Minor
James Jolly, age 84
Residence: Shop
All details from Cornwall-OPC-database.org
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Hi again, thamks KG 1798 surely?!!
Marriage Anthony Teague Byfield (Teague) to Anne Harris 30th January 1797 St Columb Minor
Keyboard86
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Hi again, thamks KG 1798 surely?!!
Marriage Anthony Teague Byfield (Teague) to Anne Harris 30th January 1797 St Columb Minor
Keyboard86
Oops! Slip of the finger :-[
I have corrected that date.
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HI
Many Thanks for the info sorry for being little blank but what does the "Shop" mean did they have a shop or does this mean home
What my Grandfather told me many years ago that there was some Blacksmiths in the Family and one of the Family set up a Blacksmith on the West Coast of New Zealand
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HI
Many Thanks for the info sorry for being little blank but what does the "Shop" mean did they have a shop or does this mean home
What my Grandfather told me many years ago that there was some Blacksmiths in the Family and one of the Family set up a Blacksmith on the West Coast of New Zealand
I have no idea!
The Cornwall OPC entry simply says "Residence: Shop"?!
Take a look for yourself. ;D
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Hi in every census from 1841 to 1881 James and Elizabeth and family lived at Shop, whether this was an actual shop I do not know?
In one census James becomes a Farmer of 30 acres at same address? '
Keyboard86
PS Eliza Ann b c 1833 stays with her parents throughout the census returns.
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Have a look at http://www.stcolumbminor.co.uk/
Click on "Than and Now", and then "Shop".
I get the feeling that, being a village, there was just the one shop?! ;D
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Hi Wayne, This is Ann I've just returned from Hokitika Seaview cemetery to check out great grandfather Henry Jolly's burial site which is unmarked. Last I visited Cornwall but didn't get time to check much out there apart from seeing the area the Jolly family came from. James is our great great grandfather through Henry Jolly's son Morton Henry. I do know that John Henry spent sometime in Australia before he settled down in the South Island in Hokitika. After Henry's dead in 1915 John moved up to Auckland to live. Only have William - Henry - John - Elizabeth on my tree but know there were other siblings as well. Regards Ann
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Hi Wayne, oops I'm still waking up as I do shift work. Yes some of the family did move to Australia one in particular was William Jolly who was once Mayor of Brisbane and there is a bridge named after him crossing the Brisbane river. Still don't know too much about him but I don't think he returned to New Zealand. I believe only four of the brothers moved from Cornwall to New Zealand. I don't sadly have a photograph of my great grandfather Henry and only just got one of John Jolly whom he lived with or near in Hokitika before he died. I believe Henry gave up farming and his family to go Gold Hunting in 1860. Didn't take any photos of grave site as there was nothing there and we weren't 100% sure if it was the correct site. As the info I had been given the people next to him I can't find who they belong to in the Jolly family. I have a feeling there may have been another Jolly family in the same area at the same time. I'm slowly gathering stuff together with the help of a second cousin in the Luxton family line whose Mother was a descendant of the Jolly family. regards Ann
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HI
Many Thanks for the info sorry for being little blank but what does the "Shop" mean did they have a shop or does this mean home
What my Grandfather told me many years ago that there was some Blacksmiths in the Family and one of the Family set up a Blacksmith on the West Coast of New Zealand
My understanding of the word "Shop" in relation to places in Cornwall, is that they refer to blacksmith's shops. There are lots of places with the word Shop in the name - for example, close to St Columb Minor we have Gummows Shop, but there are plenty of others. Once a settlement builds up around the Smithy, then that takes the name.
Mark