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Title: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Tuesday 19 July 05 17:31 BST (UK)
Hi Everyone

Wondering if anyone can Help Find My SHONE Family in 1841 Census Of Mollington

I am Looking For a Thomas Shone Shoemaker he should have a Daughter Catherine Born c 1826

This is all the Information i have on this Family and any help would be most Apprecated

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Robin in West Oz on Wednesday 20 July 05 03:08 BST (UK)
I don't know where Mollington is but I have a Thomas Shone who was convicted in 1812 at Guildford "Salop" for Life and was given a holiday in NSW aboard the "Marquis of Huntley" 1826 The indent reads that his native place was Salop Plsmay???? and that he married a Susanna Westlake in 1820 (perhaps a different Thomas) at Hobart Tasmania b 1790c. These dates do not tie up.
Also a Susanna Charlotte Shone(s) who arrived in Australia 1833 on the "Layton" age 15. It is thought she was from the Lambeth Workhouse and was sent to Australia under the London Emigration scheme. She married a Joseph Keens (my research line)
Robin in West Oz
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: peterbennett on Wednesday 20 July 05 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi Iria

           I have searched through the Mollington and surrounding areas without finding Thomas or Catherine, have you any info from later census or who,where and when did she marry who were her witnesses?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Wednesday 20 July 05 15:24 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Catherine Shone Married Robert Harold in Liverpool St Philip In 1845 Then thay Moved back to Birkenhead in 1861.. Catherines Place of Birth On The 1851 1861 is Mollington Cheshire

I think Thomas Shone may have died before 1861 ..But am not sure this is why i need help with the 1841 and 1851 Census  ???


am unable to find catherines Birth Details as well

i did find one Catherine on the Cheshire Parish Reg Website


KEYCODE BACKC01200591.20157
PADVER backC0591.2
PARISH_CODE BACK
TAGGED 0
DATED 8211230
FORENAME CATHARINE
SEX F
FATHER_FORENAME THOMAS
MOTHER_FORENAME ELIZABETH
SURNAME SHONE
OCCUPATION LABOURER
RESIDENCE MOLL
MULTIPLE_TWINS X2


But i don't know if this is my catharine?


Any help would be most apprecated and thank you for the Lookups


Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: alan m on Wednesday 20 July 05 18:08 BST (UK)
Iria  I have the following for you, you might want to keep it in case you find a connection later.
Great Saughall is not far from Mollington

Gt Saughall 1941 census
Moses Shone 14
Aaron Shone 14
Mary Shone 50
Ann Shone 10
Elizabeth Shone 12

1851 census GT  Saughall
Fiddlers Lane
John  Shone Married head 39 ag lab born Saughall
Elizabeth Shone wife 29
Elizabeth Shone daughter 9 scholar
George  Shone  son 8
James Shone son 5
Louisa Shone daughter 3
Margaret Shone daughter 10 months
all born in Gt Saughall
good luck Alan
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Wednesday 20 July 05 23:33 BST (UK)
Many Thanx Alan

I will Keep the info in File Just incase its some of my shone Family


I think i may have Found Thomas Shone in the 1861 Census. Living in Wallasey Cheshire..(not far from Birkenhead where Catherin was in 1861)


Thomas Shone 66 Ag Lab Born Mollington b 1795
Mary Shone 74 Wife          Born Mollington

Any help on the 1851 Census For Wallasey or Birkenhead would be greatly apprecated

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: peterbennett on Thursday 21 July 05 13:32 BST (UK)
Hi
       Your Shone family are not showing up in the 1851 for anywhere in the Wirral including Tranmere/Birkenhead/Wallasey districts.

       Where was Catherine in 1851 ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Thursday 21 July 05 23:39 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

Catherine Shone was Married in 1845 and Living in Liverpool with her Husband Robert Harold..

It Looks Like My Thomas Shone May Have Died By 1851 :(  Unless i can Prove the Thomas Shone in 1861 age 66 is mine..


Are there any other SHONE Familys Living in Mollington in 1851/41?
Am sure thay Could be related some where along the Line

Many thanks For all Your Help

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: peterbennett on Friday 22 July 05 14:20 BST (UK)
Hi
     There are no Shones in Mollington or the Backford parish in 1841, in 1851 there is

HO107-2172-F425   Great Mollington

William Shone head 57 ag/lab born Backford
Hannah           wife 49                        ~

Are there any Shone witnesses at the wedding ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Friday 22 July 05 21:29 BST (UK)
Hi Peter

I Had a Look at the 1871 Census..and i found my Catharine with Husband Robert Harold Living in Mckee Street Liverpool ...Catherine's Place Of Birth was Noted as Shotwick Cheshire is this far from Mollington?


There Where No Shone Witness at the Marriage Of Catherine and Robert Only Roberts Brother John Harold and Thomas Maddock

Again Many Thanx For the Lookups Thay are most Apprecated

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: alan m on Saturday 23 July 05 14:23 BST (UK)
Iria if you go on to the  family history society of cheshire web site then on to The Cheshire Surnames Directory there is someone researching a tree for the Shones including  Wallasey  perhaps she can help you.Alan
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Saturday 23 July 05 14:54 BST (UK)
Hi Alan

Thankyou for your Post...I just E.mailed the Lady who was on the List Sadly my e.mail came back as Unknown user  :'(

I Just posted my own Interest on there so hopefully i may get a reply


Many thanx again For all your help

Regards

Iria
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: peterbennett on Saturday 23 July 05 17:46 BST (UK)
Hi
       Just had a good look round the Shotwick parishes and not found anything, it does look very much like the family had moved away from Mollington fairly early before the 1841. Maybe even to Liverpool, have you had a look for the death of her parents at all ?

peterbennett
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: xsist10 on Thursday 15 December 05 11:49 GMT (UK)
Wondering if anyone can Help Find My SHONE Family in 1841 Census Of Mollington

I am Looking For a Thomas Shone Shoemaker he should have a Daughter Catherine Born c 1826

Hey Iria,

There might be a reason that Thomas Shone does not show up on the 1841 Census. I'm not sure if this is the same Thomas Shone, but he was a shoe maker and he had a Daughter Catherine born on 1 May 1833. She did died young though. This Thomas Shone was a 1820 settler to South Africa, so that may explain previous Census entries, but none for after 1820.

His journals can be found in the Corey Library, Grahamstown, South Africa.

http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/read/SOUTH-AFRICA-IMMIGRANTS-BRITISH/2004-12/1104436577-05
http://rorkeresearch.tripod.com/michael%20rorke.htm
http://www.1820settlers.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&album=4&pos=38
http://www.geocities.com/settlers1820/Shone/surnames.htm

Regards
Thomas Edward Shone
Title: Re: Shone Family of Mollington 1841/1851 Census
Post by: Iria on Friday 16 December 05 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Thomas

Many thanx for your time..There Could be a Possibilty with this Thomas Shone..As I have another Family The Bold Family who Moved to South Africa and then Returned to Liverpool...Catherine Shone b Approx 1826 married a Robert Harold in 1845 Liverpool..The Bold Family also Married into the Harold Family..So maybe Catherine Shone returned to England with the Bold Family

Thanx again and i will keep the Information on File

Regards

Iria