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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Aberdeenshire => Topic started by: bmwgem on Saturday 09 April 16 14:56 BST (UK)
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I have a Helen Milne who was born to parents George Milne and Eliza Kemp in 1861. She married Joseph Shirras in 1901 and was his second wife. I am assuming they had no children being the age she was and that I cannot find any record.
I have found her death certificate in 1938 but cannot find her birth record, marriage record to Joseph, nor can I find her on any census as living with her family. I have the 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 and 1911 census for her parents but she doesn't feature anywhere. In the 1871 census her 8 year old brother John is there but she is not even though she is of similar age.
Any help in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
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Was she born pre her parents marriage?? From Anc
Helen Milne Or Kemp Birth 16 Jun 1860 Oyne,Aberdeen Mother Eliza Kemp Father George Milne
Kay
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There is a birth on Scotlands People for a Helen Milne in Oyne in 1860 and I wonder if she is boarding with the Cruickshank family in 1861 in Oyne - listed as Helen Milne 0 b Oyne
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In 1871 old enough to be working as a servant at the Free Manse, Oyne
Elizabeth Davidson 46 Servant (Domestic) Peterhead, Aberdeenshire
Hellen Milne Servant 10 Message Girl Oyne, Aberdeenshire
Edit - the marriage of George Milne and Eliza Kemp at Oyne in 1861 is on Scotlands People
By 1901 it looks like Helen was living with brother John at 37, Sunnyside Road, Aberdeen,
John Milne 38 Mason Oyne, Aberdeenshire
Helen Milne Wife 36 Aberdeenshire
Helen Milne Sister 40 Retired House Keeper (Dom) Oyne, Aberdeenshire
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SP has a marriage between a Joseph Shirras and Helen Milne in Woodside, Aberdeen in 1901.
Ruth
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Helen seems to be in Newhills in 1891, as a cook in the household of one Henry Charles Hadden - can't seem to find her in 1881. Henry Hadden was unmarried and in England in 1881, so she must be with another household.
Ruth
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My Grandfather. William Milne, was born in Oyne. I think he was a brother to Helen. My Mother (Grace Eliza Milne) told my sister and I, that he had been married to one of the Shirras sister. She had died in childbirth. One of her brothers (?) married William's sister. My Grandfather gravitated to Newcastle upon Tyne and became a successful builder in the town. He married Ellen Heslop. They had my mother. An only child.
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Thank you for all the replies. I am interested to hear more about your family Angela. Was your William born in 1867 as I have one pencilled in but not confirmed? His brother James (my nan's grandfather) went down to Newcastle and also became a builder, it became a family trait and they contributed to some of the building still standing proud today.
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William Milne married Elizabeth Sherrifs (Shirras). In 1878 they had a son, John. William can be found at 6yrs old in the 1841 Census for Oyne.
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I can see James. Born 12 March 1831. Recorded in Parish Register. I did wonder about Grandpa's family connections in Newcastle. He was associated with work for Joseph Leech. The workshops his firm built were directly behind what are now the Law Courts. I have some quite early photographs (Maxie, William's younger brother. Subject matter is not necessarily recorded on back of them. However they are interesting). I have an elder sister. Honor Mairi Milne Kirkaldy. She lives in Grafton, Ontario, Canada. She has two children, but no grandchildren. I have two sons. And two grandchildren.
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On further research I can see in records of Statutory Registers of births (230/ 13), that a son William is registered as born on 20th April, 1867. Parents: George and Eliza (nee Kemp) Milne at Hatton of Oyne?
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On further research I can see in records of Statutory Registers of births (230/ 13), that a son William is registered as born on 20th April, 1867. Parents: George and Eliza (nee Kemp) Milne at Hatton of Oyne?
Those are the parents according to the IGI.