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Title: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: Irish Finder on Thursday 07 April 16 12:36 BST (UK)
I am trying to 'piece together my family puzzle' and i cant find what became of N Turner.

Please note there is a 'typo' with N Turner, it is really meant to be 'M Turner' who travelled with RJ Martin farmer 39, Master R Martin 9, CJ Martin 39 housewife..... 'all traveling together, last UK residence Swateragh, co Derry, Ireland and intending to settle in NZ.

Can someone please look up where N Turner got off this ship? Was it Sydney? was it NZ? Did she die on the ship?

many thanks  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: matthewj64 on Thursday 07 April 16 13:57 BST (UK)
The Ormonde arrived at Sydney Feb 4 1922. N.Turner is listed underneath the entry for C.Martin in 3rd class females. The ship's next port of call is Brisbane (then London), no Martins or Turner are listed to transit to Brisbane. Total passengers landing at Sydney is more than 500, so I'd say they got off there and onto another to NZ

Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: matthewj64 on Thursday 07 April 16 14:20 BST (UK)
Papers Past (Auckland Star, Volume LIII, Issue 39, 16 February 1922, Page 4) has the Uhmaroa (sp?) arriving with "Martin and six children" and "L.Turner" in the list of passengers
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: Irish Finder on Friday 08 April 16 04:34 BST (UK)
Thanks Matthew for your kind prowess  ;D ;D ;D now to find her death in NZ :-\ :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: sparrett on Friday 08 April 16 04:54 BST (UK)
Hi
Are you saying  you think N/M TURNER and L. TURNER are the same person?
Sue
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: Irish Finder on Friday 08 April 16 06:33 BST (UK)
Hi Sue,

Yes i believe it to be the same person. She lived with her Daughter Clara Jane Martin (nee Turner) and Robert Martin (son in law) in Swatragh, Derry, Northern Ireland, together with the children - of Clara Jane and Robert.
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: sparrett on Friday 08 April 16 07:18 BST (UK)
Do you know what were the full names of the children ?

Sue
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: Irish Finder on Friday 08 April 16 07:44 BST (UK)
The children's full names and DOB are:

Millicent Bennett Martin 11/5/1910
Robert Martin 19/11/1911
James Martin
Ernest Martin
Clara Jane Martin 1919
Honora Martin 1915
Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: sparrett on Friday 08 April 16 07:52 BST (UK)
The  MARTIN couple are buried at Waikumete cemetery, so that is good evidence you have the right MARTINs, but I have not seen Mrs TURNER their mother and mother- in- law yet.

The New Zealand chatters will do better I'm sure. ;D
Sue

Title: Re: Lookup Passanger N Turner 70yrs 24/12/1921 departed 'Ormonde' London for Sydney
Post by: Irish Finder on Thursday 22 September 16 02:48 BST (UK)
Robert John Martin born circa 1881Londonderry birth lookup. Father Robert John Martin

Robert John Martin (son in law of M Turner (incorrectly entered as N Turner) departing for NZ) . I know on his death certificate it said he was born Londonderry, I know on his marriage certificate (Church of Ireland) his father was also called Robert John Martin.  I am after his date of birth, his parents any siblings. Please note that he changed to Plymouth Brethren with his wife Clara Jane Martin (Nee Turner). If i use his age on his marriage certificate i have a birth year of circa 1881.

I am new to research (not my prowess) and i wonder if the following found on GRONI could be my Robert John Martin's parents: Married 27 July 1880, Robert Martin to Catherine McGroaty in Derry, Londonderry (Roman Catholic).  Clara Jane Turner's sister, Annie Ellen Turner,  left church of ireland to marry her catholic husband Felix Quinn, so this could be plausible?

The other Robert Martin born to a Robert Martin was 28/03/1880 Raleagh Down, Ireland, but this date wont work to give 28yrs of age on his marriage certificate.

I note that there is 1831 Census Maghera which has Robert Martin, i wonder if this is a great grandfather. I cant see a Robert Martin in 1841 census or 1851.