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Title: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Robert Fletcher on Sunday 03 April 16 09:59 BST (UK)
I have this BC with the word "Three" endorsed in the leading margin. Can someone tell me what this means.

Thanks,
Robert....
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: smudwhisk on Sunday 03 April 16 10:07 BST (UK)
I suspect its to clarify the day of birth in the next box.  It looks like Tird or Fird (rather than First), which obviously isn't spelt correctly, so may have subsequently been clarified with Three to confirm its the Third.  Do you have any other source to confirm the day of birth?

I could of course be barking up the wrong tree on this. ;D
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 03 April 16 10:12 BST (UK)
Looks like 'First' to me -  no idea what the three could be for.

Wiggy
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 03 April 16 10:21 BST (UK)
It's what's known as a 'numbered error', nothing to do with the date of birth. Look further along, and in another column of the registration (not shown above) there should be a correction, with the figure 3 written next to it.

It will have been made at the time of entering the registration, and will be the third such error made in this register. The number of the error is written out in full ('Three') in the margin and initialled by one of the registrars. Lists of numbered errors are kept separately from the register entries.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: ScouseBoy on Sunday 03 April 16 10:24 BST (UK)
Maybe it is the house number, 3
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: KGarrad on Sunday 03 April 16 10:25 BST (UK)
Bookbox has it right - it's a numbered correction to the certificate.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 03 April 16 10:28 BST (UK)
it's a numbered correction to the certificate.

Not to the certificate, but to the original registration, made at the time of entering. Corrections made later are handled differently.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Wiggy on Sunday 03 April 16 10:35 BST (UK)
Thanks Bookbox - I, for one, learn something every day from your contributions!  :)
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: smudwhisk on Sunday 03 April 16 10:54 BST (UK)
it's a numbered correction to the certificate.

Not to the certificate, but to the original registration, made at the time of entering. Corrections made later are handled differently.

Just noticed that on a copy of one I have, albeit it was a scan from a relative and she's left off the annotation on the extreme left of the certificate.  There are numbers in two of the columns.

I've a local Register Office hand written copy of a death certificate where the surname was originally entered incorrectly, but was changed a few days after registration.  That includes a statement to the right with the full details of the change.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Bookbox on Sunday 03 April 16 11:06 BST (UK)
Just noticed that on a copy of one I have, albeit it was a scan from a relative and she's left off the annotation on the extreme left of the certificate.  There are numbers in two of the columns.

I've a local Register Office hand written copy of a death certificate where the surname was originally entered incorrectly, but was changed a few days after registration.  That includes a statement to the right with the full details of the change.

A good illustration of my point in reply #6.
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: Robert Fletcher on Sunday 03 April 16 13:12 BST (UK)
Wow! what a lot of replies thankyou everyone. In column 7 there is a corrected spelling error on the name with the numeral '3' circled. So that explains the word 'three'. Thanks again.

Robert....
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: stanmapstone on Sunday 03 April 16 13:37 BST (UK)
it's a numbered correction to the certificate.

Not to the certificate, but to the original registration, made at the time of entering. Corrections made later are handled differently.

All corrections of a minor nature occurring at the time of the entry have to be numbered, obviously to prevent someone coming along later and altering an entry.
For errors discovered within a month of the entry being made then the registrar in the presence of the relevant parties, or in their absence in the presence of the Superintendent Registrar and two other credible witnesses, corrected the erroneous entry by entry in the margin, without making any alteration of the original entry, and signed the marginal entry, adding date when the correction was made.

See Section 30 at http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=nyp.33433089737559;view=1up;seq=91 which goes into detail about the correction of errors.

Stan
Title: Re: Birth Certificate Enforcement
Post by: lazydaisy on Sunday 03 April 16 16:48 BST (UK)
Hello

Just to add that on my grand parents marriage certificate, there are 5 such amendments. Bride and groom had the same surname Bevan - prior to their marriage in 1917

The names of the Fathers were wrongly attributed, as were their status (alive or deceased) and occupations.

The family used to joke that maybe the poor Registrar ended up marrying himself ;D ;D ;D 

LD