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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition => Topic started by: kgbroadfoot on Friday 25 March 16 15:18 GMT (UK)
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Hello,
Can anyone read this ship name? It's on a CR 1 card, stamped 1943.
thanks very much,
Kim
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It says "Entered in Merchant Navy Reserve Pool".
See http://www.rmg.co.uk/discover/researchers/research-guides/research-guide-c13-merchant-navy-tracing-merchant-seamen
Stan
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Thanks for deciphering and the link, Stan.
So do you know if this would possibly have been a CR 1 card from when he first join the Merchant Navy, and was in the reserve pool before being assigned to a particular ship?
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Sorry, I don't know that.
Stan
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Card CR1 was only issued from 1921 until 1941. My guess is this was just using up old CR1's, wartime austerity and all that. It could be this was issued when he first entered the MNRP or maybe if he had lost his Discharge book. Who knows!
If your man served in the Merchant Navy after 1941, which seems the case. you would need to get hold of his seaman's "pouch" and his form CRS10. Form CRS10 will tell you when he joined the MN, the names or official numbers of the vessels he served on together with the places and dates of engagement and discharge
Are you in a position to you give us his full name date and place of birth.
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Sure -- His name was Arthur Broadfoot, born 19 April, 1927. He joined the navy early in 1943.
We just got his seamen's pouch; that's where we saw the CR 1 card. As we were researching more after receiving this we found mention of the CRS 10, but got no results searching for this on the National Archives site. We're hoping to find out more about the ships and places he traveled during his time in the navy.
Thanks for your help!
Kim
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When there was an application for a discharge certificate/book or a replacement to it a CR1 card was usually completed at the Mercantile Marine Office (MMO).
He has a medal file here: BT 395/1/10664 - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4277756 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D4277756)
As SW has mentioned you would want to get hold of his form CRS 10, it should list his ships including dates and places of engagement and discharge. Not so easy to find online as they are held in a surname block of up to sixty other names. His CRS 10 should, if it has survived, be held at Kew in piece BT 382/189 - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10988415 (http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C10988415)
Regards
Hugh
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Thanks very much. I found his medal file last yesterday and downloaded. Can't quite get to Kew to look for the CRS 10 at the moment since we're in the U.S., but I'll note the reference and save for a trip. :)
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That's good to see. People willing to get off their butt and go out of their way to do a little research which they consider to be important to them, not sit there whingeing it should be available on the Internet as a matter of right.
You may also wish to look at this link which is I think his Seaman's "Pouch".
http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C8219975
If it is him make a note of his Discharge A number.R277264 This number is unique to him.
These pouches in BT 372, contain all documents submitted by seamen to the Registry of
Shipping throughout their career, often including photographs, together with copies of documents
issued to them, and are to be found at the National Archives,.
Good luck with your research.