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General => Armed Forces => World War One => Topic started by: DORAN54 on Wednesday 23 March 16 22:41 GMT (UK)
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i have a question Hugh patrick doran born lurgan armagh ireland 1895 served in the royal irish fusiliers army number11507 i have seen a medal card for him but what i can't find anything about is we have been told that he served with the British army in India and his wife was out there with him ? this has to be before 1921 as her son patrick was born armagh 1921 then 2 more afterwards in armagh we were also told she had lost more than 1 child while in india so had to have been there a while but it's a mystery is there a way to find out if they were in india?
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He was in the 2nd. Batt. who were in India pre war but were sent to France Nov. 1914 where he earned his 14 Star.
1915 they were in Salonika then Egypt & Palestine until the end of the War.
So he must have been a career soldier or re-enlisted after the war & sent to India.
His records will be with the MOD & you'll have to apply to them for a copy.
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thank you so much jim
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Hi,
that RIF number is consistent with enlistment around March 1914.
Hope this helps,
regards,
David
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Hi,
that RIF number is consistent with enlistment around March 1914.
Hope this helps,
regards,
David thank you
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Is your Hugh Patrick the one who married in Ireland in the first quarter of 1920 and son Patrick was born in Ireland in March 1921? Doesn't give much time for having babies in India.
Debra :)
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Is your Hugh Patrick the one who married in Ireland in the first quarter of 1920 and son Patrick was born in Ireland in March 1921? Doesn't give much time for having babies in India.
Debra :)
no i know !!this is where family story's put a spanner in the works we can't see he was in India that's why I'm asking really for other peoples opinions we think he's being mixed up with another family member maybe? ::) thank you for input
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Could he have been in India after the births of the 2 children?
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yes jim i suppose ,so hopefully if i can get his records i'll know . can you look at records at kew ?
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All records of soldiers serving after 1920 are with the MOD. You can order a copy:
https://www.gov.uk/get-copy-military-service-records/apply-for-someone-elses-records
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thanks jim :)
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Hi again,
sorry, meant to add the 1921 Armagh date fits in well if his was a regular short service soldier - 7 years with the colours and 5 in reserve. I see he was a native of Armagh and, at 16, a Cambric weaver- ( I had to Google it as I'd never heard it before - a linen cloth from Cambrai, France).
regards,
David
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H P Doran with a date of birth 4 9 1893 had a post 1920 number of 7040564. This number is in the block allocated to RIF in the 1920 renumbering exercise.
I note you say your was born 1895 but you also indicate that there is another of the same name in the family possibly with a military history.
According to this Great War Forum thread
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=214248&hl=
the RIF post 1920 enlistment book may be at their regimental museum (see address in post one)
It may therefore be worth asking them for a look-up of the above (plus details of yours)
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thank you gwil