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Hello - I'm trying to find more information on the following people in the attached tree:
John Taylor - born in England around 1780, married "Sarah" probably around 1799, and two children that I can find, James and John
James Taylor - I have no information apart from his baptismal record, born to Jon and Sarah, baptized 20 Jun 1799 in Oldham.
John Taylor - born 8 Feb 1802 in Oldham, appears in 1841 Ashton Under Lyne Census with wife Nanny Robinson and sons, Samuel (b 1822), John (b 1832) and Daniel (b 1835). Was previously married to a Mary Wrigley. Daniel moved to the US around 1851 and Samuel around 1863. I have no records of the third John, b 1832.
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Have you considered this marriage from LancashireOPC
Banns-: St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire
John Taylor - Whitecroft in this Parish
Sarah Wrigley - Crowley in this Parish
Banns 10 Mar 1799/ 17 Mar 1799/ 24 Mar 1799
Marriage- 26 Mar 1799 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire
John Taylor of this Parish - occ Weaver
Sarah Wrigley - Spinster of this Parish
Witnesses James Jackson & Ralph Jackson
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Thanks for that. The son, James*** was born Jun 1799, so seems likely they would have had to marry sometime in 1798... or earlier if there are other children I have not come across.
***assuming he was, in fact, a son...I am only 100% certain of the son John, and James seems very likely due to common location/parents names on baptismal records or John and James...
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Lets have a look,you probably have this
St Mary Oldham
20th Feb 1831
John Taylor , a dubler ,Bottom of Greenacres Moor, doesnt state he is a widower
Nanny Robinson, her mark ,spinster Bottom of Greenacre Moor
married by banns with consent of both parties
and witnessed by Jonathan Mellor and WM Crompton
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la possible
James Taylor
son of John Taylor and Sally
18th April 1802
abode Oldham
Church of St Peter
the other James Taylor in the vicinity son of John and Sarah was baptised in St Mary 1798
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Marriages for John and Sarah in Oldham
John Taylor and Sarah Buckley,St Mary,3rd Jan 1793,possibly the Glodwick Taylors as on
John Buckley Taylor son of John and Sarah
John Taylor and Sally Wilde,St Mary 6th August 1797
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I do have the John Taylor - Nanny Robinson marriage. They were the parents of John and Daniel Robinson Taylor. I assumed that John had been a widower, and that his first marriage was this one:
Marriage: 26 Aug 1821 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England
John Tayler - Weaver, Lowerplace
Mary Wrigley - (X), Spinster, of same place of this Parish
Witness: Thomas Platt; D. Nield, P.C.
Married by Banns by: Thos. S. Mills Curate
John and Mary were the parents of Samuel. I have these names in family records as well - just not certain on deaths of John Sr., Mary or Nanny.
Here are the records I had found for the older John and his sons, John and James:
JAMES
Baptism: 9 Apr 1798 St Mary, Oldham, Lancashire, England
James Taylor - Son of John Taylor & Sarah, his wife
Abode: Glodwick
Occupation: Weaver
JOHN
First name(s) John
Last name Taylor
Birth year 1802
Birth date 08 Feb 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism date 10 Jun 1802
Place Oldham
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
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Here is a different record for a James - the one I originally mentioned. I cannot find baptism records for John or James on LancashireOPC site, but they are both on findmyroots.
First name(s) James
Last name Taylor
Birth year 1799
Birth date 20 Jun 1799
Baptism year 1799
Baptism date 20 Jun 1799
Place Oldham
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) John
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
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Glodwick okay working on the Glodwick Taylor family
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Don't believe the Glodwick James is correct. I think it's the second James in the next post, born 20 Jun 1799 in Oldham.
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assuming they stayed there a little while
Glodwick
all St Mary Oldham
John and Sarah
James 9th April 1798
Hannah,29th December 1799
John Buckley,22nd April 1804
Sarah 8th December 1805
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I can not assume which one is yours,
there are a lot of Taylors in the area,
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so which James is yours in reference to area of Oldham
you have a date for them but nothing to weld them together
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The common link between John and James is parents named John and Sarah, born in Oldham, both Independent denomination.
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Here are two very similar Ann (Nanny?) Robinson's, both born in Oldham to a Thomas and Sarah Robinson, almost exactly 1 year apart, both of Cleggs(?). I would have thought the same married couple had daughter that did not survive, and then had an second daughter and gave her the same name. Appears this is not the case, as the first Ann, born 1801, was baptized in 1803. Second Ann was born and baptized in 1802. Any thoughts about what is going on? I know these are all common names, but is this really a coincidence that there are two Thomas and Sarah's of Clegg area of Oldham that both gave birth to an Ann one year apart?
Ann #1
First name(s) Ann
Last name Robinson
Birth year 1801
Birth date 30 Jul 1801
Baptism year 1803
Baptism date 14 Aug 1803
Place Oldham
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Lancashire
Ann #2
First name(s) Ann
Last name Robinson
Birth year 1802
Birth date 21 Jul 1802
Baptism year 1802
Baptism date 30 Oct 1802
Place Oldham
Denomination Independent
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Sarah
County Lancashire
Country England
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Thanks for that. The son, James*** was born Jun 1799, so seems likely they would have had to marry sometime in 1798... or earlier if there are other children I have not come across.
***assuming he was, in fact, a son...I am only 100% certain of the son John, and James seems very likely due to common location/parents names on baptismal records or John and James...
I would not dismiss the record rosie posted completely
People did marry when they were pregnant or already had illegitimate children, especially in the late 1700's.