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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Northumberland => Topic started by: cathped on Tuesday 08 March 16 23:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
Q: Where is Leamington Northumberland please?
I‘m on the hunt for my 4x GGM. Her first name is Isabella c1808 Leamington Northumberland and I have the 1841 to 1871 censuses (and a possible 1881 if the birth place was written wrongly). On the 1841 her place of birth is Durham. In 1851 it’s Northumberland, on the 1861 and 1871 it’s Leamington Northumberland. (1881 matches the family but says Darlington which I wonder could be wrong with the cursive style). Her husband was William Turnbull c1796 of Brandon Durham and they lived Chester le Street / Ouston / Urpeth. The children start abt 1832 with, I believe, the first son Thomas born Ouston. None of the children’s baptisms of those I found give Isabella’s maiden name. Searching for a likely marriage for William & Isabella brings up a variety mid 1825s with her name possibly Cowins, Parker, Trotter and Lambert – or other! So I was thinking of trying to find baptisms for such an Isabella in this place Leamington, but I can’t even find Leamington Northumberland on a map. Could it be Lemington? I’m about to trawl the transcripts for Newburn where Lemington appears, but before I do am I missing another place that could be Leamington please? Thanks C
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There are a few threads on here asking that same question - it seems to be a common mis-spelling of Lemington.
Christine
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Spelling is often 'optional' on old records :-)
Lemington in Newburn Parish is a contender
as is Lemmington in Edlingham Parish
http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/Edlingham/Gaz1868.html
Boo
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Thank you. It'll help in the search. C :)
I'm chuffed there is a transcript file for Edlingham on FS as well as Newburn. That's me busy tomorrow!
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If it will help, a transcription of Edlingham parish registers 1658-1812 is on archive.org
https://archive.org/details/registersedling00pargoog
You said you have census returns to 1871, if any of the children listed were born after civil registration then a birth cert for one of them may be an easier (but more expensive) route to finding the mother's maiden name.
Boo
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Cheers! :)
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I really think a Childs Birth Cert is the only way you are going to conclusively solve this one.
Trish :)
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I think so too. Just checking - this is for births during or after 1837? Thanks
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Hi
One to consider from your possible surnames.
Baptism Newburn Nov 27 1808 (born Nov1) Isabella Trotter of Scotchwood 4th daughter of Thomas Trotter, keelman, native of this parish by his wife Jane Hutchinson native of Morovenside of North Britain. ( North Britain is Scotland - there is a parish called Muiravonside in Stirlingshire).
William
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I have looked at Edlingham and nothing of note there. I've just started looking at Newburn over 10 years.... Trotter sounds promising as Scotswood is 5 mins from Lemington Newburn (I've seen Scotchwood lots for Scotswood). Many thanks. I'll def do a birth cert to check.
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I think so too. Just checking - this is for births during or after 1837? Thanks
Civil Registration began in the third quarter of 1837. Depending on when the children were born I'd choose one as far away from the start of registration (preferably one with as uncommon a first name as possible to narrow it down) as it took a good while for registration of births to catch on with a lot of people. I can't remember the figures but at first there was a high percentage of births which weren't registered.
If there are multiple choices in the index, I'd email the registrar (not sure if those registers would be held by Durham (Bishop Auckland) or Gateshead and explain, depending on how busy they are they may check the registers for you to find one which matches the criteria you give them (Dad's first and surname, Mum's first name is all you are sure of).
Both Durham and Gateshead Registrars have online search facilities, if you can find their local reference for the registration that will help them find the entry you'd like checked.
Boo
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That's very helpful thank you ;D
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Just to finally close this thread, I eventually bought a birth certificate for an older sibling Joseph 1841 and it confirms that you Millmoor were bang on! I can search for siblings now on the BTs for Newburn and see if they throw up more clues on the parents - my 5xGGparents. Thanks all! ;D
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That's good to hear. I love to find out how threads like this end and I know Boo does too :)
Thanks for letting us know
Christine
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That's good to hear. I love to find out how threads like this end and I know Boo does too :)
Thanks for letting us know
Christine
Oh yes:-) its always good to hear how things turn out, its part of how I learn 'how' and 'where' to look for those elusive folk I have :-)
Plus, of course, I am nosey!
Boo
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Just to finally close this thread, I eventually bought a birth certificate for an older sibling Joseph 1841 and it confirms that you Millmoor were bang on! I can search for siblings now on the BTs for Newburn and see if they throw up more clues on the parents - my 5xGGparents. Thanks all! ;D
Good result and a great find by Millmoor!
Well done!
Boo
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A little late on the debate.
However, spellings are not great on Durham Bishops Transcript sometimes. It is Lemington, Newburn and Scotswood. Parts of Northumberland came under Durham for the 1841 census.
Scotswood is probably the most recognised part of Newcastle-upon-Tyne as it is in the chorus of the well-recognised Geordie anthem The Blaydon Races. Blaydon is across the Chain Bridge from Newburn, mentioned in one of the verses. For those outside the north-east of England - get a translator! ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84jwrWMp5js
Morvenside appears to be a suburb of Edinburgh from my research.
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Thanks for adding :D