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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: NeilRJF on Monday 07 March 16 23:12 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
This is George Edward Crow (my g/g'father). Could anyone help i.d. his uniform please? He was b.1882, so I suspect this may have been taken around WW2 when he was living in London (Lewisham area).
I wondered if the "RC" on the lapels referred to the Red Cross but I haven't found any other photos that would verify this theory.
Many thanks in anticipation.
Neil
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Have you looked for him on the 1939 register?
No, I do not think RC denotes Red Cross.
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No, I do not think RC denotes Red Cross.
Me neither but it could relate to an occupation or society. What was his job.
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What is embossed in the top right corner of the photo, please?
The standard and protected symbol of the red cross is a Red Cross, with the protection of the Geneva Convention, I believe?
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Roots Chat? ;D ;D
Carol
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He looks like an employee of a hotel. Ritz-Carlton? I am not certain however with the name Ritz and Carlton. I thought the Hotel in London was the Ritz.
However the link below has Ritz-Carlton in it. I am confused.
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ritz+carlton+london+tea
This map may shoot my idea down.
http://www.ritzcarlton.com/en/hotels/map
The same with Connaught Hotel , London but there is a Royal Connaught Hotel, Canada.
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Thanks all for the thoughts so far. Yes, I have ruled out Red Cross now too.
Thinking about this, the photo was probably inter-war, when he may have had a few diferent jobs including, apparently, a stint in Australia working (according to family lore) on the Sydney Harbour Bridge!
The suggestion of a hotel employee is interesting; he was a labourer and ex-policeman so I wouldn't rule out any number of jobs.
As for the embossing - that is all we have I'm afraid. It's the wrong proportions for a (modern) passport photo but I guess it could be that?
Thanks,
Neil
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he was a labourer and ex-policeman so I wouldn't rule out any number of jobs.
He'd also been a ship's steward. FindMyPast has his merchant navy ID, with photo, from 1920.
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Hotel possibilities for the 1940's:
Royal Court Hotel, Sloane Square
Rutland Court Hotel, Lancaster gate
Russell Commercial Hotel, Vauxhall Bridge Road
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Name of ship . . or shipping line maybe?? It does look like a service type unifurm doesn't it - Hotel or ship steward or something like that.
What it definitely isn't is Red Cross.
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There are only two matches in 1939 one is a Carman & Hand Lorry in Essex the other is a General Labourer in Lewisham...I wonder if the "C" stands for Council
Carol
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That gave me a giggle Carol, rootschat, I like it. :D
Jennifer
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he was a labourer and ex-policeman so I wouldn't rule out any number of jobs.
He'd also been a ship's steward. FindMyPast has his merchant navy ID, with photo, from 1920.
Ah, that would be a breakthrough - I can see a George Crowe and Craw, but in 1921 and just the stamped card, no photo - am I looking in the wrong place?
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There are only two matches in 1939 one is a Carman & Hand Lorry in Essex the other is a General Labourer in Lewisham...I wonder if the "C" stands for Council
Carol
The Lewisham one would be him, in Cheseman Street I suspect. Yes, I must get round to running through the 1939 register :)
Thanks!
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Can we try to decipher what the embossed stamp in the top right corner could be? It could be an official ID card?
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What about a coach driver ?
Jennifer
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I can see a George Crowe and Craw, but in 1921 and just the stamped card, no photo - am I looking in the wrong place?
Link to the image on FindMyPast:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=tna%2fmsea%2fbt350%2f05%2f59%2f055960&parentid=tna%2fbt350%2f2130758052%2f1
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I can see a George Crowe and Craw, but in 1921 and just the stamped card, no photo - am I looking in the wrong place?
Link to the image on FindMyPast:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=tna%2fmsea%2fbt350%2f05%2f59%2f055960&parentid=tna%2fbt350%2f2130758052%2f1
Fantastic - many thanks Shaun.
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Ribble Coaches
or Romford Coaches
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So from the ID card found by ShaunJ, we know he was a steward on the Venezuela, formerly the Adolph Woermann (surrendered to Britain as war reparations, but that's going rather off-topic...) The ship passed through the ownership of the David Steamship Company to the Grace Line. None of which helps with the 'RC' initials, but we've made progress! ;D
A close-up here of that offical stmap, BTW, from the version of the photo that I didn't digitally crop...
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Could it be Chatham Railway?
Carol