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Title: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: griffwarren1 on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:04 GMT (UK)
Iam really looking for the origins and death of Mary Rodgers on this censor married to William Rodgers. Does the 1911 census tell us when she was born? I think she was a bit of a lass in her past.

Thanks griffwarran



Derby RG12/2730 Folio 134 Pages 15/16


William Rodgers Head M 38 General Laborer Derby
Mary do Wife M 36 Princes End Staffordshire
Samuel do Son S 17 General Laborer Nanwich Staffordshire
William do Son 9 Scholar Derby
Mary do Daur 7 Scholar Derby
Fanny do Daur 5 Scholar Derby
George do Son 4 Scholar Derby
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:13 GMT (UK)
Do you mean a year of birth?

Family Search has 1911 indexes, have you checked there?

Is there a previous thread as you say you are returning?
If you link it, it will help and stop unnecessary searching and repetition of information.
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: griffwarren1 on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:17 GMT (UK)
Not checked that. I just get different dates on the censors.

Thanks
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:24 GMT (UK)
Is this her?

1881 born 1856 'Princessent' Princes End
1891 born 1855 Princes End
1901 born  1857 Crewe

What was her maiden name? Sorry, I see you have posted that.
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:26 GMT (UK)
Ages can be a bit variable on censuses

This may be her on 1911
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7TV-GPH

She also gives Crewe as her place of birth on 1901
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:28 GMT (UK)
I see we have been here before and you never replied to my last post  ;)

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=474513.9
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 02 March 16 21:31 GMT (UK)
Is there a father's name and occupation on the marriage certificate?
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Thursday 03 March 16 10:22 GMT (UK)
Looking back at your other posts re Mary and now looking at censuses, I think she is likely to be the daughter of Samuel and Elizabeth here:

1861 2036 / 26 / 2

Mary Griffith 5 yrs born Tipton and living Wednesbury

1871 2988 / 79 /38

Mary Griffith 14 yrs b Tipton living Wednesbury

Princes End is in Tipton

By 1881 Her family are in Derby and she is married.

Her brother Samuel Griffin is  married to Hannah Rogers (haven't checked for a relationship)
Samuel and Hannah have a nephew Samuel Griffin 7 yrs b Derbyshire  :-\

In a later census brother Samuel is shown as born Princes End.

Heywood
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: griffwarren1 on Thursday 03 March 16 21:20 GMT (UK)
Thankyou. Thats puts her at being born 1856. She has a child before Derby called Samuel who only app ears in the 1901 censors. He seems to be missing from 1891 censor. I think he was moved somewhere. Can you cofirm her mothers maiden name by any chance?

Thank you for your help brilliant!


Regards
Griffwarren
Title: Re: Returning to hunt down Mary Rodgers nee Griffiths who seems to fib about her bir
Post by: heywood on Thursday 03 March 16 21:34 GMT (UK)
I am working on the premise that the child Samuel is with his uncle Samuel in 1881 as I mentioned- as Griffin.

1891 he is Samuel Rodgers with his mother and William Rodgers.

You could look for a marriage to check maiden name or get a birth certificate.

A possible marriage could be Dudley March 1850 vol 18  og 367
Samuel Griffiths and Elizabeth Sickard or Elizabeth Williams are on the same page - there are other names though but no more Elizabeths.