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Title: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: kjmck on Wednesday 02 March 16 02:13 GMT (UK)
Hi again,

This post is a long shot. Before my grandfather passed away in December of last year, he told me that an uncle of his emigrated to the U.S from Poland. Unfortunately, because my grandfather's family moved to southern Poland, they did not remain in close contact with their northern family, so he couldn't remember a name for this Uncle.

So. I am looking for a male Golba who would have emigrated from Poland between 1900 - 1930 at a guess. My grandfather mentioned San Fransico. This man's parents were Ludwik Golba and Apolonia Szlufcik, and two of his brother's were called Wincenty and Stanisław Golba, and the family were from a place called Kielce.

As I said this is a long shot! But if anyone can point me in a direction to look or can offer any help themselves it would be much appreciated.

Thank you :)

Keelan
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: Genealiza on Wednesday 02 March 16 14:32 GMT (UK)
Have you tried searching the Ellis Island website?  Try it also with different spellings.

www.ellisisland.org

There is also the following which contains census, some b/m/d records and other documents.  If you find your family on Ellis Island and see where their destination is, you can focus in on other records with the Family Search website.

www.familysearch.org
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Thursday 03 March 16 23:44 GMT (UK)
Using the exact search guidelines of male, Golba, born in Poland, here's what I found from Ancestry.com, in the U.S. censuses:

There were no hits for the 1900 or 1910 censuses.

1920: 21 Golba males enumerated, born between 1869 and 1895.  Unique names: Frank, Michael, John, Joseph, Alex, Julius, Valenti, Jacob, Peter, Stanley, George, Ignatz, Steve, Thomas.  Most were in eastern U.S.; furthest west was Chicago, Illinois.

1930:  34 Golba males enumerated, born between 1869 and 1913.  Unique names:  many of the same as 1920, plus Stanislaw, Zigmund, Julian, William, Stanly, Kazimir, Ignacy, Velma, Walter, Mikolaj, Andrew, Walenty, Edward, Stane.  Most were in eastern and midwest U.S.; furthest west was Johnson County, Kansas.

Record for:
Stanislaw Golba     wife Mary, resided in    Springfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts    b. abt 1877    Poland

1940:  25 Golba males enumerated, born between 1873 and 1910.  Unique names:  many of the same as 1930, plus Nick and Ignatius.   Most were in eastern and midwest U.S.; furthest west was Chicago, Illinois.

Record for:
Stanislans Golba     wife Mary, resided in    Springfield, Hampden County, Massachusetts    b. abt 1877    Poland

If you can give any idea of the birth year or range of years for this uncle, that might help.  When was your grandfather born, for starters?

Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Friday 04 March 16 15:31 GMT (UK)
I can add that there is a Frank Golba buried in San Diego, CA.  Found on Findagrave.com:

Birth:    Jan. 27, 1901
Death:    Mar. 4, 1972
 
Inscription:
Kansas Pvt US Army World War II
 
His wife was possibly Sophia Golba, who was buried next to him.

Birth:    Apr. 1, 1890
Death:    Nov. 1, 1961
 
Inscription:
Beloved Wife

I reiterate, if you can give some idea of birth range for this uncle you seek, that would help narrow down the possibilities.  When were his parents married?  When was your grandfather's father born?  Was this uncle an older or younger brother to your grandfather's father? 

Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: kjmck on Friday 04 March 16 19:35 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

Apologies for the late replies.

usaPetticrew - My grandfather was born 25 February 1922 in Czortków, Poland (This is now part of the Ukraine). But the Golba family were from a place called Kielce further north in Poland. My great grandfather was Stanisław Golba, and Stanisław had a brother called Wincenty Golba. Wincenty was born in 1900 but Stanisław's date of birth is unknown, estimated between 1880 - 1895. My cousin recently told me that my grandfather was contacted by Lawyers in the US who were dissolving the estate of Joseph (Józef) Golba, so this could well be the Uncle who emigrated. This Uncle's D.O.B is the same for Stanisław - Unknown. Also - When talking about this with family, both Chicago and San Francisco came up.

The parents for all three boys were Ludwick Golba & Apolonia Szlufcik, and I am in the process of obtaining marriage certificates for both my Great Grandparents Stanisław Golba and Katarzyna Jasiak, and my great great grandparents Ludwik and Apolonia Golba, but it is taking a while.

Keelan
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: kjmck on Friday 04 March 16 19:41 GMT (UK)
Genealiza thank you for the advice I will be looking into the websites you have suggested :)
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Friday 04 March 16 22:06 GMT (UK)
Here are some records for various Joseph Golbas.

Home in 1920:     Bremen, Cook County, Illinois   
Joseph Golba   40, b. Poland, laborer,  immigrated 1900
Mary Golba      34
Carl Golba      11
Mary Golba      10
Anna Golba      8
Josephine Golba   5

Home in 1930:     Harvey, Cook, Illinois
Joseph Golba   49, immigrated 1910
Mary Golba   44
Carl Golba   21
Anna Golba   18
Josephine Golba   15
Charles Golba   4

Home in 1940:   Thornton, Cook, Illinois
Joseph H Golba   60, naturalized citizen
Mary Golba     55
Carl Golba     31
Ellen Marie Golba   19
Charles Golba   14
Mary F Golba   1

U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes:
Joseph Golba    b. 19 Mar 1879    Poland        
Address:  14738 Wood Street, Harvey, Illinois. 
Naturalization:  4 Feb 1936, U.S. District Court, Chicago, Illinois


Home in 1920:    Hartford Ward 2, Hartford County, Connecticut
Joseph Golba    36, b. Galacia, laborer, immigrated 1912, boarder, married but no wife listed with him.

Home in 1920:    Stamford Ward 2, Fairfield County, Connecticut
Joseph Golba   b. abt 1875 in Poland, immigrated 1904, married but no wife listed with him.

Home in 1920:   Toledo Ward 10, Lucas County, Ohio
Joe Golba    44, b. Galacia, laborer, immigrated 1912, boarder, married but no wife listed with him.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: kjmck on Friday 04 March 16 22:56 GMT (UK)
Do you think a Marriage certificate for this Joseph and Mary Golba would throw up parent's names? I don't know what sort of info American marriage certificates have on them?
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Saturday 05 March 16 21:55 GMT (UK)
At Familysearch.org, I found the following records for that Joseph Golba of Cook County, Illinois.  These are free records so you can see them yourself.

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name    Joseph Golba
Registration Date:    1942
Residence:  14738 Wood Street, Harvey, Cook County, Illinois.
Birth Date:    19 Mar 1879
Birthplace:  Makuw, Poland


Illinois, Cook County Deaths
Name    Joseph Golba
Event Type    Death
Event Date    29 Dec 1959
Event Place    Harvey, Cook County, Illinois, United States
Address    14738 Wood Street
Age    78
Marital Status    Married
Occupation    Laborer
Birth Date    19 Mar 1881
Birthplace    , , Poland
Funeral Home    The Olen Mortuary
Burial Place    Calumet City, , Illinois
Cemetery    Holy Cross
Father's Name    Stanley Golba
Mother's Name    Eva
Spouse's Name    Mary Golba
Informant's Name    Mary Golba

You can see from this death record that his parents were Stanley and Eva, so he must not be the Golba you seek.

I tried to search for any Golba with father = Ludwik and mother = Apolonia, but came up with no matches.

Then I tried searching for any Golba with birthplace Kielce, and got one match:

United States World War I Draft Registration Cards
Name    Thomas Golba
Residence:  1450 Robinson Court, Niagra Falls, New York
Event Type    Draft Registration
Event Date    1917-1918
Event Place    Niagara Falls City, New York, United States
Nationality    Russia Poland
Birth Date    13 Oct 1890
Birthplace    Kielce, , Russia Poland
He had a wife and 1 child.
Physical:  Gray eyes, brown hair, medium height and build.

United States Census, 1920
Name    Thomas Golba
Event Place    Niagara Falls Ward 3, Niagara, New York, United States
Gender    Male
Age    29
Marital Status    Married
Race    White
Race (Original)    White
Relationship to Head of Household    Brother
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)    Brother
Birth Year (Estimated)    1891
Birthplace    Poland
Immigration Year    1913
Father's Birthplace    Poland
Mother's Birthplace    Poland

Household    Role  Gender  Age   Birthplace
Catharine Warzecha    Head    M    43    Poland
Thomas Golba    Brother    M    29    Poland
Joseph Gucza    Boarder    M    30    Poland


United States Census, 1930
Name    Thomas Golba
Event Place    Niagara Falls, Niagara, New York, United States
Age    40
Marital Status    Married
Race    White
Race (Original)    White
Relationship to Head of Household    Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)    Head
Birth Year (Estimated)    1890
Birthplace    Poland
Immigration Year    1908
Father's Birthplace    Poland
Mother's Birthplace    Poland

Household    Role  Gender  Age   Birthplace
Thomas Golba    Head    M    40    Poland
Katherine Golba    Wife    F    40    Poland
Zigmund Golba    Son    M    17    Poland
Sophie Golba    Daughter    F    8    New York
Boleslaw Golba    Son    M    6    New York

You can see all these records at Familysearch.org, including the original images.

Since Thomas' first son was born in Poland, there would be no marriage certificate in the U.S., for Thomas and Katherine.

Additionally, I found these on Ancestry.com:

Social Security death claim:
Name:    Thomas Golba
SSN:    106161823
Birth Date:    13 Nov 1890  (the day and year are the same, the month is different from that on the draft registration card.)
Death Date:    16 Oct 1954
Claim Date:    21 Oct 1954

The above record might be the right Thomas, as I found city directories for Niagara Falls for 1954 and 1955.  In the 1954 directory, Thomas is listed with wife Katherine named, at 125 22nd, apartment 2.  In the 1955 directory, Catherine Golba is listed and designated as "widow of Thomas", at the same address. 

Thomas appeared in these Niagara Falls city directories as early as 1916, at that time with an address of 1415 Robinson Ct.  There were several other Golbas listed in that city, for that year:  Ignitius, two John, two Joseph, Michael and Valentine.

The following might have been the same Thomas Golba, on a ship's list.  It listed his final destination as Niagara Falls, NY, on the original page image.  However, the 1909 arrival is before his first son's 1913 birth in Poland.:

New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name:    Tomas Golba
Arrival Date:    25 Mar 1909
Nationality:    Russia
Race:  Polish
Last permanent residence:    stupileo??  (hard to read)
Age:    18
Gender:    Male
Port of Departure:    Antwerp, Belgium
Port of Arrival:    New York, New York
Ship Name:    Gothland

Another Social Security death claim, for the daughter:
Name:    Sophie Bertha Golba
[Sophie B Golda]
SSN:    106164275
Gender:    Female
Race:    White
Birth Date:    11 Jan 1922
Birth Place:    Niagara Fall, New York
Father Name:    Thomas Golba
Mother Name:    Katherine Gromna
Death Date:    25 Dec 1995
Type of Claim:    Original SSN.
Type of Claim:    Death Claim
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: Pandagurl123 on Tuesday 28 June 22 17:36 BST (UK)
Hi my name is Danielle I am doing a family research project. My great great grandfather joesph golba came from Poland, I was told he got in a fight with his brothers and he went to Chicago while they stayed in New York. I can't find anything on the man it's making me crazy, does anyone k ow his parents names or siblings? He came with frank golba.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 28 June 22 20:26 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat

There is a Joseph Golba in Chicago (as per details on previous page)  but we really need further details of his year of birth etc., to positively identify him

Have you searched on family search - once registered, its free to search.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&q.anyDate.from=1910&q.anyDate.to=1980&q.anyPlace=chicago%20illinois&q.givenName=joseph&q.surname=golba

Sandra

Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 28 June 22 20:39 BST (UK)

He could be Joseph H Golba -  19 March 1879 - Maków Podhalański, Poland
died 29 December 1959 - Harvey, Cook, Illinois.

married  Mary (Maria) Stasko (Sztasko) Golba 1884–1966
born  23 April 1884 - Somos, Prosov, Slovakia
died 1966 - Harvey, Cook, Illinois.

family search tree with info

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KLNB-5GR

Sandra
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 28 June 22 20:48 BST (UK)



Frank Golba Sr. 1888–1945
born 19 March 1888 - Maków Podhalański, Poland
died 1 April 1945  Harvey, Cook, Illinois

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/9K2R-XPT

Sandra
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: *Sandra* on Tuesday 28 June 22 20:50 BST (UK)


If you are a member of ancestry, then there are a few family trees with photographs of Joseph and Frank

Sandra
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: Pandagurl123 on Tuesday 28 June 22 23:20 BST (UK)
His birthday is listed differently on diff documents, on his tomb stone it says March 1881 but in polish records it was in march 1879. I can't find any other siblings he supposedly had a lot, or his parents.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Wednesday 29 June 22 16:25 BST (UK)
His birthday is listed differently on diff documents, on his tomb stone it says March 1881 but in polish records it was in march 1879. I can't find any other siblings he supposedly had a lot, or his parents.

You say you haven't found anything on your gggrandfather Joseph, but you know his birthyear from his tombstone.  In what cemetery or city is the tombstone?

March 1881 fits the death record for Joseph Golba of the Chicago area, about whom I posted on page 1 of this thread:

At Familysearch.org, I found the following records for that Joseph Golba of Cook County, Illinois.  These are free records so you can see them yourself.

United States World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name    Joseph Golba
Registration Date:    1942
Residence:  14738 Wood Street, Harvey, Cook County, Illinois.
Birth Date:    19 Mar 1879
Birthplace:  Makuw, Poland


Illinois, Cook County Deaths
Name    Joseph Golba
Event Type    Death
Event Date    29 Dec 1959
Event Place    Harvey, Cook County, Illinois, United States
Address    14738 Wood Street
Age    78
Marital Status    Married
Occupation    Laborer
Birth Date    19 Mar 1881
Birthplace    , , Poland
Funeral Home    The Olen Mortuary
Burial Place    Calumet City, , Illinois
Cemetery    Holy Cross
Father's Name    Stanley Golba
Mother's Name    Eva
Spouse's Name    Mary Golba
Informant's Name    Mary Golba

You can see from this death record that his parents were Stanley and Eva, and his wife was Mary.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Wednesday 29 June 22 19:51 BST (UK)
U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes:
Joseph Golba    b. 19 Mar 1879    Poland       
Address:  14738 Wood Street, Harvey, Illinois.
Naturalization:  4 Feb 1936, U.S. District Court, Chicago, Illinois

Home in 1930:     Harvey, Cook, Illinois
Joseph Golba   49, immigrated 1910
Mary Golba   44
Carl Golba   21
Anna Golba   18
Josephine Golba   15
Charles Golba   4

Home in 1940:   Thornton, Cook, Illinois
Joseph H Golba   60, naturalized citizen
Mary Golba     55
Carl Golba     31
Ellen Marie Golba   19
Charles Golba   14
Mary F Golba   1


For son Charles Golba:

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/132753361/charles-golba
Charles Golba
BIRTH   16 Nov 1925
Harvey, Cook County, Illinois, USA
DEATH   25 Jan 1961 (aged 35)
Cook County, Illinois, USA
BURIAL   
Holy Cross Cemetery and Mausoleums
Calumet City, Cook County, Illinois, USA

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9N-TXRW
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998
Name   Charles Golba
Sex   Male
Age   35
Address   14921 Marshfield
Death Date   25 Jan 1961
Death Place   Chicago, Cook, Illinois, United States
Birth Date   16 Nov 1925
Birthplace   Harvey, , Illinois
Marital Status   Married
Occupation   Brick Layer
Race   White
Father's Name   Joseph Golba
Mother's Name   Mary Koski
Spouse's Name   Margaret Golba
Informant's Name   Margaret Golba
Event Type   Death
Entry Number   2657
Cemetery   Holy Cross
Funeral Home   Hallowell And James


For son Carl Lee Golba:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2MV-JNX2
Illinois, Cook County Deaths, 1871-1998
Name   Carl L Golba
Sex   Male
Age   83
Address   15319 Millard
Burial Date   23 May 1991
Burial Place   Forest Park, , Illinois
Death Date   20 May 1991
Death Place   Harvey, Cook, Illinois, United States
Birth Date   04 May 1908
Birthplace   Streator, , Illinois
Marital Status   Widowed
Occupation   Guard
Race   White
Father's Name   Joseph Golba
Mother's Name   Mary Stasko
Informant's Name   Karen Weyer
Event Type   Death
Entry Number   031673
Cemetery   Belford
Funeral Home   Lack Sons



Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: shellyesq on Wednesday 29 June 22 22:24 BST (UK)
Do we know that the woman born in 1938 is deceased?  If not, please do not post information about people born in the last 100 years.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: Pandagurl123 on Wednesday 29 June 22 22:27 BST (UK)
They are all deceased and yes that is the correct Joseph but not the correct parents, I think he was stainslows brother that is what I am trying to prove. I found one document on my heritage where stainslow listed Joseph and its the only one I can find. With no subscription I can't see the 9ther siblings. Sadly I am poor. So just seeing what others know. Also chalrses was not Mary's son, he was one of the daughters. I think anna. So obviously family secrets and such but sifting through has been a challenge. Just want to verify Joseph h golbas parents.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: Pandagurl123 on Wednesday 29 June 22 22:32 BST (UK)
And yes I double checked my aunt passed a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Golba somewhere in America???
Post by: usaPetticrew on Thursday 30 June 22 11:37 BST (UK)
They are all deceased and yes that is the correct Joseph but not the correct parents, I think he was stainslows brother that is what I am trying to prove. I found one document on my heritage where stainslow listed Joseph and its the only one I can find. With no subscription I can't see the 9ther siblings. Sadly I am poor. So just seeing what others know. Also chalrses was not Mary's son, he was one of the daughters. I think anna. So obviously family secrets and such but sifting through has been a challenge. Just want to verify Joseph h golbas parents.


I suggest you contact one or more of the users, at this next link, with your questions.  They contributed to the family tree of Joseph Golba, held at Familysearch:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/changelog/KLNB-5GR

They might have more detailed info about the relationship betweeen Stanislaw and Joseph.

You can send them a message through Familysearch, by clicking on their usernames.  A registration to Familysearch is free.

Here is the detail page for Joseph:

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/KLNB-5GR

Possible help with your research:

https://www.familysearch.org/en/wiki/Poland_Genealogy

In the 1930 and 1940 census, Charles is listed as a son of Joseph, as is also stated on Charles' death certificate.  The censuses cannot  confirm that Mary was his mother, although it is so stated on the same death certificate.  The person who gave that info was Charles' wife.