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Beginners => Family History Beginners Board => Topic started by: michelle wright on Tuesday 23 February 16 03:17 GMT (UK)
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Have found a marriage for my 5th great grandmother Mary Fletcher of Grindon to Ralph Kent of Butterton 24 May 1751 in Peak Forest, Derbyshire. Cannot trace any further back for Mary. The church they married at was like Gretna Green and no questions asked as I have read, so I guess Mary was under age, she was also 3 months pregnant! Any help with her parentage etc would be appreciated.
Thank you.
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Sorry she married Joshua Kent, Ralph was their first child, followed by William, George, Joshua and Anne (I always assume children were named after family members).
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This isn't what you were asking for but couldn't ignore it as could be Joshua's father and it gives us a rough birthdate for Joshua
Name Joshuae Kent
Gender Male
Christening Date 30 Apr 1714
Christening Place BUTTERTON BY HULME END,STAFFORD,ENGLAND
Father's Name Henrici Kent
Mother's Name Mariae
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There are two christenings that have the correct name and area I will print both .....Name Mary Fletcher
Gender Female
Christening Date 15 Apr 1730
Christening Place PEAK FOREST, DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name Henry Fletcher
Mother's Name Elizabeth
Name Mary Fletcher
Gender Female
Christening Date 28 Jul 1734
Christening Place PEAK FOREST, DERBYSHIRE, ENGLAND
Father's Name Francis Fletcher
Mother's Name Mary
Grindon is a peaceful little moorland hill village, standing at over 1000feet above sea level in the Peak District National Park, and over looking the beautiful manifold valley.
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I was going to ask how Michelle knew that Mary was born in Grindon, Staffs.
FreeReg has the marriage and on the record Grindon is stated to be the bride's parish.
Bev
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If Michelle has information that Mary was born in Grindon she could be correct in her assumption that she was very young when she got married ...This shows a Christening and Mary would be only 13 or 14 when she married Joshua ,.....would this be possible.. ......................................Name Mary Fletcher
Gender Female
Christening Date 07 Aug 1737
Christening Place GRINDON, STAFFORD, ENGLAND
Father's Name Simon Fletcher
Mother's Name Mary
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Love the quote re the Manifold Valley as I didn't Know that. Joshua's mother was Mary Manifold!
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I suppose the parish can be different from the birth place, she could have been working in Grindon and then gone home to get married, still wonder which of the Peak Forest families she was from then!!
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I am only a newbie but I think her parents name may be on the marriage certificate if you get a copy of that....Don't you think she is the younger one Christened at Grindon or is that too young Oi have just asked and only the fathers name and occupation will be on the marriage certificate
Well I have just been informed that there were no marriage certificates until 1837 so that option is scuppered sorry ..I hope you find her family and birth date Michelle ....good luck
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For a marriage in 1751 there will only be church records, certificates came into being with civil registration in 1837 and that was when the name and occupation of the father started to be recorded.
Nanny Jan
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They weren't as generous with information 300 years ago!
Thanks everyone for your help.
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Mary daughter of Francis married William Palfreyman in Peak Forest 1755 so I will probably go with the other Mary daughter of Henry born in Peak Forest as Mary born in Grindon would have been only 14 when she married and that seems a little young, although they did marry young in those days but Joshua was 37!
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A girl could lie about her age, but I am quite sure that a child as young as 13 or 14 would have been noted by the vicar as a minor.
Have you found a death record with an age on it for her by any lucky chance?
Bev
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Mary daughter of Francis married William Palfreyman in Peak Forest 1755 so I will probably go with the other Mary daughter of Henry born in Peak Forest as Mary born in Grindon would have been only 14 when she married and that seems a little young, although they did marry young in those days but Joshua was 37!
Like you say not so much information this far back. None of my research has gone past mid 1800 at the moment. You have done well and sometimes in cases like this you have to take an educated guess. One thing for sure is that they had all the children christened and that is usually a good source of information GOOD LUCK
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Ahh will look into her death, thanks for the advice.