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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Durham => Topic started by: MyAngel1920 on Monday 22 February 16 22:56 GMT (UK)
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Mary Graham nee Unknown?? was known to live in Bath Lane, Stockton on Tees, Then Norton area, of Stockton on Tees, Grandfather unknown? Believed to have either died or suicide. Mary & her husband had 17 Children, The first child was not to have been her husbands? known deceased children, Alan, William known as Billy, others not know. Any help appreciated, seeking history.
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I have a few questions. :)
Could you please tell us Mary's husband's name?
Do you know Mary's date of birth? We need some dates in order to try to locate them, as the names are fairly common.
Regarding the places Mary lived - are these from family knowledge or census records?
When you say "grandfather unknown" - do you mean Mary's grandfather?
Who is believed to have committed suicide? Mary or her grandfather?
Sorry for all the questions, but I am just trying to clarify so we can try to help you. :)
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Similar post here http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=742307.
Probably best to stay here on Durham board?
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Mary Graham was my paternal grandmother, I have little other, than she & my grandfather, had 17 children, the 1st child was not his. I don't know his name, it was a hush subject? Once tale, he killed himself near rail lines?? times were hard I guess in them days with 17 kids. She was known to live in Bath Lane, Thornaby Stockton on Tees. Then Greta Road, Norton, Stockton on tees, 40s to 70s ish? my father was William Graham born around 1946 ish, married 1962 spouse Hardy, and died at the age of 49 I think, in Stockton on tees
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Heywood
Apologies that was my error again not checking the listing box, sorry for any confusion, its mine,
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I think my father, William Graham, known as Billy died in the 1990's
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Other than the marriage, I can't see a William Graham exactly matching the details you have given.
Might he have been born 7 Nov 1943, and died in Newcastle in 1997?
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volume 1 page 1774 William Grahams Marriage, Mary Grahams Son, not finding a death
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Hi MyAngel
Do you have a copy of your parents marriage certificate?
That should give the name of his father, your grandfather, and his age at the time of the marriage.
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Do you know when your grandmother Mary died?
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that could be right, I was not sure if my father was older, or the same age, just he had to marry her because she was pregnant and they married in 1962, so that William may well be right, thanks all at least its a start
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I think Mary my grandmother died around the time 1990's
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do you know where in the list of children your father was born, one of the first or last or in the middle?
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No marriage cert, just page copy, I am thinking obtaining this will be a good start, I think its going to be a tricky one, 17 children too
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I don't know what position in the siblings he took, a girl was the first born I know that much
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Could Mary's maiden name have been
Taylor Hardy?
Possible marriage: Mary Hardy to Edward Graham Jan./Mar.1932 Stockton district
if so, I've found 14 possible children born 1932-1953 (the eldest not a girl) which I can send by PM since many of them could still be living
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There's a William Graham mmn Hidey March 1943, no marriage in the index for this but he sits nicely between 2 potential siblings born March 1942 and December 1944 and a possible death 1992 in Central Cleveland district.
You really need the 1962 marriage certificate as a 1st step
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I have been offline for a while and notice you have received some good help and advice. Looking at your profile and age as 95, I mistakenly expected events related to your grandparents to have occured longer ago and perhaps the family may appear in the 1911 and 1901 censuses. I see that is not the case. ;D
I would agree that purchasing the 1962 marriage certificate is the best way to begin this journey.
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Right this is what I know and its very complicated, Mary Graham & Unknown grandfather, they must have been born around 1899 or early 1900 Paternal grandparents, My father William Graham is deceased and can confirm marriage
Now here is the sting that causes confusion, My maternal grandparents, Charles & Mary Hardy, she was a Taylor, I have what I need so far for my maternal side. its the paternal side I know nothing of, Dad died young and was kept from me as was the rest of the family, so again all I have is memories. Yes I think I will order a marriage certificate, Mary graham died not sure, but do know she lived in Hardwick, Stockton on tees where she died 80 0r 90s?? again with 17 siblings and many grahams its a minefield. Thanks everyone, I will order my dads marriage cert and come back to you all
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Ruskie
I understand your questions, you know how I feel :( I don't know my grandfathers name, what little time I had with Nana Mary Graham was only brief as a child. William & Valerie A Graham, Marys son had to marry in 1962, a child was due in 1963 April.
My Grandfather was never spoken about :-\, I don't know why. the tale of hard times and the children just kept coming he committed suicide??, just hearsay, but he had to have died before 1978 I remember visiting her, I think marriage of my father will be a start I reckon,
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Marys 17 children,, William known a Billy I think Brenda was the first born but not Grandfather grahams child? Deceased Surname unknown or if she carried the Graham name, as for the other siblings, I can only confirm William, Alan Brenda are deceased, Others I don't know or have any idea?
Greta Road) Norton, Stockton on Tees,, all them kids in one house? gosh mini nursery, and it was a council house too. both my Grandmothers were Called Mary
Mary Graham nee Don't know?
Mary Hardy nee Taylor NO info required on maternal side needed yet
Hope this helps
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Are any of these aunts and uncles still alive?
If so please click on the 'modify' button and remove their names in accordance with our 'no living people' policy.
Do a birth search at www.freebmd.org.uk for births where the surname is Graham and the mother's maiden surname is Hardy. You'll get a longer list of possible names.
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Your grandmother Mary Graham's maiden name was Hardy- the eldest child was registered under her maiden name since she wasn't married at the time (marriage to Edward Graham a few years later).
Not counting the eldest daughter, I was able to find 14 children using FreeBMD and dawnsh found the other so you should also be able to see them. Just select births, Graham for surname, Hardy for mother's maiden name then use Stockton for district (with Duirham S.E. for later births)-
www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
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One possibility for Edward's death is this one:
Sep qtr 1959
Edward Graham aged 53
Durham S.E. 1a 516
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Received Marriage Cert, Mary Graham nee Hardy, married Edward Graham the son of William Graham deceased at their 1932 wedding.
How strange, My Maternal Grandmother was Mary Hardy (Taylor) by Marriage
what's the chances of that :o
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Hi there myangel
I would like to inform you the Mary hardy you speak of later to be Mary graham was my grandmother. I've been following your posts and can confirm it is the same lady . If you go to Facebook look for me under my name of Kaz Dunn. . You will see i have my profike picture set as a lady with a blonde bob hair amd sunglasses. My dad was mary grahams son. I I live in Brandon Durham now with as I moved from stockton some yrs ago. Then we can have a good chat
Many thanks
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Hello i am Mary grahams grandson you're quite right with the info you have i am on Facebook as Paul Graham my PIC on there is with a guy with maroon shirt i would love to hear from you x
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I am Mary grandson my father John Robert hardy Graham was the oldest boy please i would love to hear from you x
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In reply to your message asking for graham family members there was 17, 2 died as babies leaving 15..
Brenda, ( deceased)
John, ( deceased)
Albert (deceased)
Allan(my dad, deceased)
(*) still in stockton
(*) still in stockton
Audrey,(deceased)
Gloria, (deceased)
Mary, ( deceased)
(*) ,still in stockton
Sandra ( Deceased)
William,( myangels1920s dad, deceased)
(*) , still in stockton
(*) still in stockton
These are in order as i remember them, not as in oldest to youngest. Im missing one more. I can be found on facebook under Kaz Dunn i live in durham now. my profile pic shows a lady with bob style blonde hair and brown sunglasses on , Hope this information is what your looking for
Love Kaz :)
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You are both able to send a pm via RootsChat should you wish, it is the safe way to swap information on living folk ;)
Sarah
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Thanks Sarah I have ever sent her a pm hope she logs in to see it lol x x x
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Hi Kaz,
Members are notified by email of all new replies and of all pm's ;)
How exciting to find a connection.
Sarah
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Hi Karen
Yes thanks for the info, I managed with the help of roots to fill in most of only a memory, they have helped tremendously.
thanks for the contact