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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Derbyshire => Topic started by: Bab5 on Monday 22 February 16 13:04 GMT (UK)
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Hi wondered if anyone can help I am looking for a wedding between Samuel Bamford(Bamforth) born 1792 Tideswell, and a Susan ? born c1892 possible again Tideswell. They had a daughter Mary who was born between 1825 and 1830 either Sheffield or London depending which census Struggling Babs W
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Not seeing a Samuel Bamf* bn 1792ish Tideswell, on 1851
Can you give a census ref? Where is he?
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Sorry should have put Samuel died Jan 1850. Susan died Dec 1851 both Sheffield They lived in Sheffield in the 1841 census. Babs
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1841 Radord St Sheffield
Saml Bamford 42 file cutter y
Susan 40 y
Alfred 15y
Mary 14 y
William 10 y
There is a daughter Eliza baptised at Sheffield 14 th May 1837 but no sign of that marriage or baptisms for the older children.
Ciderdrinker
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They were definitley not married in Derbyshire........if it helps..Samuel Bamford was baptised Tideswell 28.02.1791 son of Thomas and Mary.........
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How do you know that the Samuel from 1841, with Susan and children, was born in Tideswell?
No exact birthplaces given in 1841, he says "Yes" born in county, so as living in Sheffield that would be Yorkshire? He is dead before 1851 census when birthplaces are given.
So where has the idea that he was born in Tideswell Derbyshire come from?
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Hi first Mary was married in 1851 to Sidney Pashley (got cert)
Samuel had apprentice papers says he was born Tideswell. They also had another 2 children again cannot find where born again only census. Babs
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Yes, there was a Samuel bn Tideswell (see reply #4), but how do you know that is the same person as the one who is in Sheffield in 1841 with the (apparent, no relationships given) wife Susan?
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In 1851 Sidney and Mary Pashley seem to be with the Pashley in laws.
Mary is 24 and born Sheffield
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Hi yes but in later census she states she was born in London. Babs
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Yes, I saw that.
Still not sure how you got back to Tideswell in Derbyshire for her parents though!
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Sorry but I cant remember. I know I did not use other peoples trees on Ancestry, I only use them to sometimes check what I have. I will go back and double check every thing unless you can spot anything I would be very thankful Babs
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Lets go back a stage
You are confident that Sidney Pashley and Mary, are your ancestors?
And you have their marriage cert, in Sheffield, in 1851?
Who does she name as her father? and his occupation? And how old is she? Her address? And witnesses names?
Lets be sure the 1841 family is right! Especially as only one census she says bn Sheffield (and that is when she is with inlaws, so they probably filled it in and put Sheffield like everyone else in the house), when it is her and Sidney she puts London on several censuses.
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Hi it says Mary BAMFORTH is 21 yrs of age and living at Daisy Walk Sheffield and Samuel Bamforth was a filesmith when he died he was called Bamford (the same as his wife Susan) It does not say deceased Thanks Babs
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HAve you got the widowed Susan in 1851? I cant see her anywhere
I was hoping if she was at Daisy Walk it would at least be a link from Mary (who marries Pleshley) back to the Samuel and Susan couple from 1841!
At the moment even that looks a bit weak - occupation of file cutter is consistant, but Mary's age and birthplace is all over the place.
Witnesses at MAry's marriage?
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Hi no I cannot find her on the census she died in Dec 1851 and is buried in St Georges Church yard with Samuel. I thought she might be in hospital, it says she was living at 59 Daisy Walk Sheffield Witnesses were Eli Pashley and Sarah Ann Barker Thanks Babs
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Hi William Bamford 1831 also married a Jane Pashley 1833 to 1910