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Title: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Saturday 20 February 16 23:42 GMT (UK)
HI ,
 folks looking to track a Nicholas Whitty. Born in parish Rosbercon/tullagher/listerlin in 1860s. brother of Ellen Whitty Broe Rathmines/rathgar area and Edward whitty (bootmaker)new ross. Nicholas moved to dublin and may literally have followed in his brother Edward's footsteps and also worked as a bootmaker. May have married a Margaret Molloy. Have Traced Ellen and Edward - would love to track Nicky. 
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: heywood on Saturday 20 February 16 23:56 GMT (UK)
Hello,
Is this him

1901 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Spitalfields/1340097/

1911 http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Wood_Quay/Garden_Lane/70395/

This one is married to Catherine though.

Heywood
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Sunday 21 February 16 00:20 GMT (UK)
Thanks Heywood. That may be a possible ..
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: heywood on Sunday 21 February 16 00:38 GMT (UK)
Who are the parents of your Whitty family?
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 21 March 16 12:07 GMT (UK)
Hi parents were Patrick whitty and Mary Curran..
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: Sinann on Monday 21 March 16 12:35 GMT (UK)
The mother's maiden name isn't recorded but otherwise look good for your Nicholas and the family in the Census heywood found.
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/7c32210097879

In 1911 he says he was married 33 years, that plus this possible death in 1907
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/1da2e712929391
Would add up quite close for the marriage and age of death recorded for that death record matches fairly close for Catherine re the Census.

The mother's maiden name would have clinched it.
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 March 16 12:47 GMT (UK)
How about a sister Anne with right parents also has a Carroll as witness
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/9498e10014002
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: Sinann on Monday 21 March 16 12:55 GMT (UK)
And mother Curran, nice one, if he had a sister Anne.
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: heywood on Monday 21 March 16 13:08 GMT (UK)
There is a Mary Whitty with those parents baptised Glenmore, Kilkenny 1868.

I asked re parents because of the marriage already quoted of Nicholas Whitty and Catherine Carroll who look good in the censuses.

I can see where you have Margaret Molloy- she is a godparent with Nicholas Whitty to one of Ellen's children. You would need to search for a marriage there but the Whitty/Carroll marriage is looking good.
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 March 16 15:22 GMT (UK)
Glasnevin index shows the following burials
Nicholas Whitty age 31 in 1917 possibly the son
Nicholas Whitty age 72 in 1938
Catherine Whitty age 49 in 1907
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml

checked 1911 census for Dublin only one Henry Whitty around then so this might be a marriage for him
Henry Whitty to Margaret Campbell 2nd July 1912  Dublin South
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/57b48d6629391

there is a possibility that Margaret died in 1915 and Henry then married Alice Sheridan 13th May 1917 in Dublin South
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2335856515460
this couple can be followed up on the register of electors which also includes in family house hold a Nicholas Whitty possible son
http://databases.dublincity.ie/electoral/advanced.php
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Monday 21 March 16 17:15 GMT (UK)
Excellent ..Thanks very much Daithi
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 March 16 19:37 GMT (UK)
Just noticed he has a 19yr old son John in 1901 a shoemaker
A John Whitty married Mary Somerville on 25th Sep 1904
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/01ac166809273

likely children mothers name Somerville
Nicholas Whitty 1905
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/9ae4930934672
Mary                 1908 possibly died before 1911
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/d9d6680630739
Patrick               1911
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/33aa700315615
Joseph               1913
http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/47f8870109696
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Merchant_s_Quay/Francis_St__/65267/
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: dathai on Monday 21 March 16 19:43 GMT (UK)
see  John Whitty 21 Geoffrey Keating Road
http://databases.dublincity.ie/electoral/search.php

and Bride Street ,Iveagh Buildings 1941 to 1945
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: gaffy on Tuesday 22 March 16 06:36 GMT (UK)
Clongeen RC parish Co. Wexford, 20 February 1849, baptism of Nicholas Whitty, parents Patrick Whitty and Mary Curran (left page, 7th entry down):

http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000634045#page/9/mode/1up

Also for same parish, children Margaret 1851, Jane 1854, Eleanor 1857, then a couple more in Co. Kilkenny.

Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: dathai on Tuesday 22 March 16 13:11 GMT (UK)
I cross referenced this marriage with the civil records and i take it that its actually Ellen's marriage to James Browe/Broe not  Anne ?
http://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details/9498e10014002

http://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/006c557187086


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F5YC-HM6

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FG85-37R
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Tuesday 22 March 16 16:59 GMT (UK)
Correct Dath elem did marry James Broe . But the clongeen connection and other children have thrown things ..I always thought there was oh Nichols .Ellen and Edward my get grand father..I 'll have to check with my dad.so much info here . To triangulate is the key.  Whitty very popular in wexford New Ross and Kilkenny area..fingers crossed . It will make sense. Not the first time I 've found an extended family so nothing ruled out
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: noelwcamogie on Thursday 24 March 16 21:38 GMT (UK)
how did you search the NLI registers - for the above info ? surely not a manual trawl? 
Title: Re: Nicholas Whitty, bootmaker B: Wexford/kilkenny
Post by: gaffy on Friday 25 March 16 04:05 GMT (UK)
Quote from: noelwcamogie on Thursday 24 March 16 21:38 GMT (UK)

how did you search the NLI registers - for the above info ? surely not a manual trawl?


If you mean reply #13, RootsIreland has the information, but always better to see the original.