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Title: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: Samc1966 on Monday 15 February 16 15:06 GMT (UK)
Hiya
Trying to find family for Kathleen Smith who lived at 13 Nelson Road,  Ponders End in early1896. Where can I find electoral roll details please? Her father was Frederick Smith and had died by the time she married in Feb 1896.

Any help would be great - thanks.

Sam
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: DORAN54 on Monday 15 February 16 15:18 GMT (UK)
is that your tree on an****ry    if so  i assume siblings mother etc you are looking for
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 15:24 GMT (UK)
Hi possible family in 1891 Kathleen C Smith 13 b Buckhurst Hill. Essex, Nelson Road by the way is behind the Falcon Pub in South Street
Census ref RG12/1089/11/16
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 17:48 GMT (UK)
Hi again, so your Kathleen Smith married a George Edward Holmes.

1901 census

George E Holmes 28 occ Furnace Stoker b Felstead, Essex
Kathleen 27 b Waltham, Essex
Winifred M 5 b Ponders End
George E 3 b Ponders End
Ethel M 1 b Ponders End
Residing at 10, Fairfield Road, Enfield
Census ref RG13/1273/63/12
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hi the Mother of the Kathleen in 1891 census in 1901 is an Isabella Smith aged 62 Widow b Ponders End residing at Nelson Road
Census ref RG13/1273/18/27
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 18:23 GMT (UK)
Hi the Mother of the Kathleen in 1891 census in 1901 is an Isabella Smith aged 62 Widow b Ponders End residing at 4, Nelson Road
Census ref RG13/1273/18/27
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: Samc1966 on Monday 15 February 16 18:39 GMT (UK)
Hi Guys
Thanks for your quick replies.
I have looked at Isabella before but am sure I found a reason why it did add up.... I will revisit it all and if I find my stumbling block again will give you a shout to see if I am being daft....
Just for info - can we get to electoral rolls for this area as I couldn't see anything? Also am I right in thinking I would need to come to London Metropolitan Archives for parish records for that area?
Many thanks
Sam :)
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: Samc1966 on Monday 15 February 16 18:40 GMT (UK)
Sorry meant didn't add up.  :o
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 18:41 GMT (UK)
Hi again, what was the occupation of Frederick on the marriage certificate of Kathleen and any witnesses?
Keyboard86

EDIT OK Found marriage, helpful parish record Frederick deceased!
Kathleen 22

Also in 1881 Kathleen aged 3 b Buckhurst Hill in Waltham Cross, which ties in with 1901 possibly,  what was her age at death?
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: Samc1966 on Monday 15 February 16 19:21 GMT (UK)
Hiya
My Kathleen died in Tottenham in Nov 1957 aged 83/84.

I have just re-checked those census and here were my glitches:

Kathleen C Smith b.Buckhurst Hill still lived at home in 1901 as she appears on the census with her parents. My Kathleen was married and on the census as Holmes.

Isabella Smith who lived in Nelson Road in 1901 at number 4 as a widow - I found her in 1891 with her husband George at a different address in a Ponders End and with same sons Harry and James.

Unless I am missing something I think this rules them both out???

Rgds
Sam
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: keyboard86 on Monday 15 February 16 19:27 GMT (UK)
 ;D Now that sounds like valid research,  so let me start again!
All the places Kathleen lived including 1911 were within a  half mile of Nelson Road, as lived in that area for years.
Keyboard86
Title: Re: Ponders End Electoral Roll Look Up Query 1890-1896
Post by: Samc1966 on Monday 15 February 16 19:53 GMT (UK)
Yes it's really odd as they didn't move far at all once she was married. I did wonder if some of her info may be purposely incorrect as it looks like it was a shotgun wedding so to speak....... Their first daughter Winifred was born 4 months after Kathleen and Edward married.....