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I would be so grateful if someone would look up some information when they are doing their own research. My aunt's mother was a WWI Canadian War Bride who died young, so her memories of her are few. I got the marriage certificate, searched the Censuses and birth records, but have been unable to find where she was born and lived before this time. Emily Budd, daughter of Harry Budd (deceased) married William Charles Offord on August 31st, 1918 at All Saints Church, Carshalton. Her address was listed as Queen Mary's Hospital, Carshalton. She is listed as William's next-of-kin living at No. 1. Pearl Street Cottage. Winkfield, Nr Windsor, Berks.
I think the hospital staff records will shed more light on where she came from. With that information, I could find out her parents' names and any brothers and sisters to tell my aged aunt. Thanks for any help with this!
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What was her age when she married. Who were the witnesses.
Where / when did she die.
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Emily Offord - father Henry Budd, mother Alice appears to have remarried in Kingston, Frontenac, Ontario, Canada in 1927
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKMR-LWLX
Her age is 29 making an approx year of birth as 1898
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1921 Canadian census.Living in Trenton Hastings Ontario.
Emily arrived in 1919.
William Offord 50 (although I think the image says 30)
Emily Offord 23
Emily Irene Offord 8/12
William travelled out to Canada on the Tunisian on 10 Feb 1919 with other soldiers he was a Private.
He died age 30 as a result of an accident on 17th Nov 1922.
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Emily Budd is proving very hard to pin down. We started looking for William in the hope that there would be clues when we found the two of them together,as to Emily's date or place or birth.
But so far Rosie and I are stumped on this one.
Her father's name may not be Harry,if she was illegitimate or her dad died when she was very young it may be the first name she thought of (perhaps her brother?) when asked who her father was at her wedding.
Carol
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I would be so grateful if someone would look up some information when they are doing their own research. My aunt's mother was a WWI Canadian War Bride who died young, so her memories of her are few. I got the marriage certificate, searched the Censuses and birth records, but have been unable to find where she was born and lived before this time. Emily Budd, daughter of Harry Budd (deceased) married William Charles Offord on August 31st, 1918 at All Saints Church, Carshalton. Her address was listed as Queen Mary's Hospital, Carshalton. She is listed as William's next-of-kin living at No. 1. Pearl Street Cottage. Winkfield, Nr Windsor, Berks. As added info Winkfield has always been an area for married quarters from what was the old victorian wellington barracks in Windsor
I think the hospital staff records will shed more light on where she came from. With that information, I could find out her parents' names and any brothers and sisters to tell my aged aunt. Thanks for any help with this!
Is there any chance that Emily Budd was a patient & not a Nurse as in 1981 my daughter age 3 months was at this hospital at the time it was a childrens hospital but all the wards where singular buildings spread about in the grounds when my daughter went for her operation we where transported in a kind of milk float when I asked why all building where so far apart I was told it was because it used to be an isolation hospital for t.b. e.c.t. do you know the cause of her death ? . If she was a nurse could she have picked up something that ended her life so young ?
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I would be so grateful if someone would look up some information when they are doing their own research. My aunt's mother was a WWI Canadian War Bride who died young, so her memories of her are few. I got the marriage certificate, searched the Censuses and birth records, but have been unable to find where she was born and lived before this time. Emily Budd, daughter of Harry Budd (deceased) married William Charles Offord on August 31st, 1918 at All Saints Church, Carshalton. Her address was listed as Queen Mary's Hospital, Carshalton. She is listed as William's next-of-kin living at No. 1. Pearl Street Cottage. Winkfield, Nr Windsor, Berks. As added info Winkfield has always been an area for married quarters from what was the old victorian wellington barracks in Windsor
I think the hospital staff records will shed more light on where she came from. With that information, I could find out her parents' names and any brothers and sisters to tell my aged aunt. Thanks for any help with this!
Is there any chance that Emily Budd was a patient & not a Nurse as in 1981 my daughter age 3 months was at this hospital at the time it was a childrens hospital but all the wards where singular buildings spread about in the grounds when my daughter went for her operation we where transported in a kind of milk float when I asked why all building where so far apart I was told it was because it used to be an isolation hospital for t.b. e.c.t. do you know the cause of her death ? . If she was a nurse could she have picked up something that ended her life so young ?
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Sorry for the duplicated post I was attempting to add that Winkfield has always been a place for forces married Quarters even in ww1 the old Victorian wellington barracks at Windsor had Quarters there
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1911 has an Emily Budd
Same household as George Herbert Brooks and his wife Edith Brooks
Marriage
ApAmy/Jun 1907
Mile End
George Herbert Brooks / Edith Budd
Looks like Edith and Emily are sisters
Cant yet find either on earlier censuses. Might this Emily be a contender for the one we are looking for?
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Not looking so hopeful, as found Edith in 1891 (before that Emily was born) and her father was George William, not Henry/Harry.
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Thanks to all :) I'm coming to England in May, so I'll be able to get to the hospital records. I really would like to be able to tell my auntie where her mother was born, and a little more about her life in England.
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Have you established where these hospital records are held :-\
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What was her age when she married. Who were the witnesses.
Could we have this info from the marriage certificate please? Witnesses may include a sister of Emily..
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I got the marriage certificate, Emily Budd, daughter of Harry Budd (deceased) married William Charles Offord on August 31st, 1918 at All Saints Church, Carshalton. Her address was listed as Queen Mary's Hospital, Carshalton.
Did the marriage certificate give an occupation for her
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This is a bit of a long shot but...
1901..Southampton, Hampshire
All born in Southampton
Henry J Budd 35 Carpenter, Journeyman
Alice Budd 27
Alice F Budd 6
Victor G Budd 5
Mable E Budd 3
Albert H Budd 6/12
Not sure now...two trees on Ancestry have her as Emily Marie Budd
Carol
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Good find but I think this may be her death
Deaths Sep 1903
Budd Mabel Emily 5 S. Stoneham 2c 29
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You just beat me...I was just about to post that..never mind.
There is this too
Name: Emily Louisa Butt
Birth: Apr 1899 - South Stoneham, Hampshire
Too many straws to clutch at ::)
Carol
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Won't any hospital records be subject to a 100 year closure rule? I know some archives will look stuff up for direct descendants but will do it themselves so no other under 100 yr information is seen by the requester.
Although any such records [patient or staff] will probably have date of birth, they are unlikely to have place of birth or parents except I suppose as next of kin.
Josey
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Another...maybe:
1901
Birth Place:
Holsworthy, Devon, England
George Slade 63 Head General Labourer
Mary Slade 57 Wife
Emily Budd 26 Daughter m. Dressmaker
Bertie Budd 6 Grandson
Emily Budd 3 Grandaughter
All born in Holsworthy except Head..born Milton Damerill
Carol
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Won't any hospital records be subject to a 100 year closure rule?
That is what I was thinking :)
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There is this entry:
Name:
Emily Budd
Birth Date:
1896
Admission Age:
16
Admission Date:
16 Nov 1912
Record Type:
Admission
Borough:
Lambeth
Parish or Poor Law Union:
Lambeth
Place:
London, England
Title:
Renfrew Road Workhouse Register, 1912-1913
Listed as Servant.
Carol
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Apologies for the delay in response. Thank you all for your suggestions and findings. I think the last one is promising, as recently I heard from a daughter of Emily's eldest Evans daughter that she was raised in an orphanage. No occupation is given for Emily on her marriage certificate :-(
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Update - made it to the London Metropolitan Archives. Emily was employed as a "Nursing Helper" from Aug 15 1915 - Aug 30 1918. No other info was given for employees in the records I saw, so still no concrete evidence of where she was born or her parents names. I've gone back through BMD records and an incredible number of Henry or Harry Budds married a lady with Alice in her name!
If anyone should be where the Lambeth Union records are kept and find they have time on their hands, I'd so much appreciate your looking up anything about the Emily Budd who was there. One relative thinks her whole name was Emily Marie Violet Budd, but that may have become muddled with time.
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Hope you had a good trip to the UK ;D
Who were the witnesses to the 1918 marriage of Emily :-\
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I had a wonderful trip, thank you. Witnesses were Bessie Jordon and George Prentice if I'm reading correctly.
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The witnesses may have worked with Emily. I can't see Bessie to pin her down.
Have we discounted this family, Merton is just up the road from Carshalton :-\
1891 Merton - 4 Railway Houses RG12/603 f80 p58
George Budd 35 bn Headley, Hants - Railway plate layer
Louisa 29 bn Surbiton Hill, Surrey
William 4 bn Mitcham, Surrey
George 3 bn Merton, Surrey
1901 - 4 New Railway Cottages
RG12/656 f36 p26
Louisa Budd - Wid - 39 born Surbiton Hill
Henry G Budd 13
Annie Budd 1
Rosie Budd 8
Emily Budd 5
John Alfred Budd 3
Children all born Merton
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Thanks Rosie99 - I have Henry or Harry as dad's name and Alice as mother's name. Doesn't seem like any way to establish which Emily Budd is the right one if the parents names don't match :-(