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Title: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Thursday 11 February 16 23:34 GMT (UK)
Hello, could anyone please advise if they know what NC stands for in a census return?

This is in a 1911 census for a William EKE living in Chopwell, Winlaton, County Durham.

The column for place of birth records N C Northumberland (don't believe this stands for Newcastle as this is written in full elsewhere).

Many thanks for any ideas - Carol
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Bookbox on Friday 12 February 16 00:03 GMT (UK)
I think it stands for Not Captured (meaning the data wasn't available).

Have you seen the 1911 image? It might be advisable in this case, to check the county of birth. Unfortunately, we are not allowed to do lookups in 1911.
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Bookbox on Friday 12 February 16 00:33 GMT (UK)
I think it stands for Not Captured (meaning the data wasn't available).

But, on further reflection, perhaps not -- since the data that we see in 1911 was normally written by the Head of Family (or the person in charge of the dwelling), not by the census enumerator.
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: davidft on Friday 12 February 16 00:46 GMT (UK)
If you look at the original not the transcript it does not say "N C Northumberland" that is just what the transcript says that is freely available on familysearch

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCG-4XB

I cannot put what the original says as we are not allowed to do that for the 1911 census

However looking for a birth registration, on freebmd.org.uk, for a William Eke gives

Births Jun 1875 
Eke    William John        Morpeth    10b   365

but you have to be careful as there is a William Eke born the same year in Norfolk and he ends up in Northumberland
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Friday 12 February 16 07:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you - it is indeed the William EKE from Norfolk that we are trying to trace.

Married first in 1905 then again in 1921. First wifed died in 1908 and he was living 10 minutes from the place a William Eke is found in the 1911 census

We are trying to fill in gaps for his whereabouts 1908 - 1912 (1912 turns up near Dover).

Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 12 February 16 07:15 GMT (UK)
"North" something or it could be "Not" something
I can't think what the C could stand for though .... :-\

A tricky one because it could be an abbreviation known only to the householder who filled out the form rather than an "official" or commonly known form of whatever it stands for.  :)
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: DavidG02 on Friday 12 February 16 07:17 GMT (UK)
Could it be Norfolk County??? ???

The image has commas after the 2 letters

Makes no sense as the others have had their full birth places squashed in ??? ???
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Ruskie on Friday 12 February 16 07:21 GMT (UK)
I was just thinking the same David. But no one would call it Norfolk county would they?

Norfolk City?  :-\

N = New?  :-\
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Friday 12 February 16 07:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks again - the William Eke we are looking for was born in CORPUSTY, Norfolk in 1880 (married Elizabeth Brown in 1905, County Durham).

We try to view the original census return - seems the William Eke in the 1911 census was not our man. :-[
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Friday 12 February 16 07:41 GMT (UK)
Don't forget NC has been written by the enumerator - plus Norfolk County - Northumberland would not make sense in any case
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 12 February 16 07:51 GMT (UK)
Don't forget NC has been written by the enumerator - plus Norfolk County - Northumberland would not make sense in any case
No - NC has been written by the householder , (text deleted.) It doesn't say NC Northumberland , just NC ,and could just as easily stand for Norfolk , Corpusty - perhaps Mr ?  was just uncertain .( The 1911 census was filled in and signed by the householder or someone else in the house if he was unable to write )

( Edited by me for copyright reasons )
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Friday 12 February 16 08:01 GMT (UK)
All is clear now - apologies for the confusion.

Would William's age in the original document be 31 (he was born 1880) by any chance?
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: Christine53 on Friday 12 February 16 08:27 GMT (UK)
The age given in  the free index is correct:


https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWCG-4XB
Title: Re: Meaning of NC in a census
Post by: carolmasip on Friday 12 February 16 08:30 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for all your help.