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Title: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: cumrew on Monday 08 February 16 12:19 GMT (UK)
Dear Helper,
I am totally at a loss to imagine what the name of this child was
Gole ? aged 6 in this - [not in the 1851 census in this family.]

1841 Census: Brook Street, Hackney.
David   DYER 40 b London
Mary             35 b Bristol
David            12
Eliza               9
Gole               6
Mary               4

Thank in anticipation...

ER
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 08 February 16 12:24 GMT (UK)
A guess from me Job (added or John)  -the child is male according to the age column  :-\
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: Kay99 on Monday 08 February 16 12:27 GMT (UK)
I would agree with Job
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: cumrew on Monday 08 February 16 12:42 GMT (UK)
Hi Kate99 and Rosie99,
Many thanks..

indeed!
How fast you are in helping..
 ER
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: avm228 on Monday 08 February 16 13:18 GMT (UK)
There are these Chiswick baptisms which may be relevant.

23 Mar 1834: John William DYER born 02 March 1834. 
05 Feb 1837: Mary Hanbury DYER born 12 Jan 1837.

Parents in each case: David, shoemaker* and Mary, of Turnham Green.

* I think David's occupation (though faint) is cordwainer (=shoemaker) in that 1841 census.
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: avm228 on Monday 08 February 16 13:27 GMT (UK)
From Hackney Poor Law Removal & Settlement records:

3 Oct 1854

Dyer, Mary 52, wife of David 54
Dyer, Mary Hanbury 17

abode: in the workhouse.

Notes in the register re Mary snr:

Married St Augustine Church, College Green, Bristol in the year 1802**. 
Her husband rented a house No. 6 Upper Albany St, Regent's Park, St Pancras at £55 rent & rates and did so for 3 years - left same in March 1853. Husband gone to Melbourn [sic]. Belongs to St Pancras.

**It clearly says 1802 (unrealistic given their ages) - the marriage of David Dyer & Mary Hanbury appears in fact to have taken place in 1822: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NF54-46V


I see that there is then a burial in West Hackney, 4 Oct 1857, of Mary Hanbury Dyer, 21, of Wellington St.
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: JenB on Monday 08 February 16 14:25 GMT (UK)
Quote from: cumrew on Monday 08 February 16 12:19 GMT (UK)
Gole ? aged 6 in this - [not in the 1851 census in this family.]

Quote from: rosie99 on Monday 08 February 16 12:24 GMT (UK)
A guess from me Job (added or John)  -the child is male according to the age column  :-\

Quote from: avm228 on Monday 08 February 16 13:18 GMT (UK)
23 Mar 1834: John William DYER born 2 March 1834. 

They are at 6, Upper Albany Street in 1851, with them is son John aged 17 born in Chiswick.
Ho 107 / 1493/ 430 / 39

I'd suggest that your 1841 'Gole' is the same person as your 1851 John.
Title: Re: 1841 Census Hackney Check one name. at this address.. Lookup please
Post by: avm228 on Monday 08 February 16 15:53 GMT (UK)
Quote from: JenB on Monday 08 February 16 14:25 GMT (UK)
I'd suggest that your 1841 'Gole' is the same person as your 1851 John.

I agree  :)

Suggested baptisms for the some earlier children of the couple (all in London):

Elizabeth, 1823: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JWX1-2CM
David, 1828: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J795-ZHD
Eliza Sarah, 1831: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1XS-RRG