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Title: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Sunday 07 February 16 05:52 GMT (UK)
Hi

Would someone please be kind enough to look up the marriage record for me of HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH who were supposedly married in Torpoint between 1830 and 1840? Daughter Emma Mary was born in 1836, so I presume most likely the marriage was between 1830-1835. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: DavidG02 on Sunday 07 February 16 05:58 GMT (UK)
Hi Julia  welcome to Rootschat

Here is a great site for all ancestors Cornwall :)

http://www.cornwall-opc-database.org/search-database/
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Sunday 07 February 16 06:01 GMT (UK)
Thank you but I have already accessed the website extensively to no avail. I have tried all of the usual options and have exhausted any other options I had. I have been doing genealogy for many years and that was my first port of call, but no matter how I try and search for them they never appear. Thanks for the tip though - great minds think alike!
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: DavidG02 on Sunday 07 February 16 06:02 GMT (UK)
I did the same and you are right.

I accessed my subscription site and I see a marriage in a place called ANTONY. Others may know of it

22.9.1834
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Sunday 07 February 16 10:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you! I know ANTONY is the name of the parish before it was TORPOINT - they are interchangeable from the data on the OPC. Does the record provide any other info at all? Anything would be super helpful :)
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: DavidG02 on Sunday 07 February 16 13:27 GMT (UK)
Not really. No parents names etc or ages of bride and groom. Sorry
Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: roadrunner 2 on Sunday 07 February 16 16:24 GMT (UK)
Hello Julia Hope the following census,s  are helpful
            1841 census Antony,St JacobHO107/135
            1851           Antonywith Torpoint HO107/1900
            1861           Antony with StJacob RG9/1523
            1871                    With StJacob  RG10/2229
            1881                    WithAntony   RG11/2280
            1891                    WithAntony   RG1806
Also the 1841 census is available on Film from the
 L.D.S Church Film No241259
All the above census are on the Cornwall Free Online Census Progect
Plus  the Cornwall Archive Centre have the 1851cencus compiled by
the New Zealand Society of Genealogist with a Surname Indexwith
a first name/ age andcensus Folio No
Regards Roadrunner


         


Title: Re: HENRY DAVY/DAVEY + MARY ANN SMITH TORPOINT MARRIAGE - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Sunday 07 February 16 22:45 GMT (UK)
Thank you - but as the family departed Cornwall for Australia in 1848 the census data limits me to 1841, and there are no Davey families listed that I can see - it is crucial for my research to find the correct parents for Henry Davey as there are so many possibilities but he seems to not want that info to be found!
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: Spike H on Sunday 07 February 16 23:25 GMT (UK)
In the other thread you mention that Henry was born in 1810, something about an immigration record. Do you have the documentation to confirm that date?
The tree you have posted has Henry bpt in 1818, could that be closer to his birth date?
There is a Henry in 1841 Census, aged 20 (but 20 to 24 which fits in with an 1818 birth) living with Christina (65) who may have been his mother. There is also an Emma aged 5 (possible dau) but no sign of Elizabeth. There is a Mary but this may be the sister not the wife Mary Ann who is missing also.
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: majm on Sunday 07 February 16 23:28 GMT (UK)
In the other thread you mention that Henry was born in 1810, something about an immigration record. Do you have the documentation to confirm that date?
The tree you have posted has Henry bpt in 1818, could that be closer to his birth date?
There is a Henry in 1841 Census, aged 20 (but 20 to 24 which fits in with an 1818 birth) living with Christina (65) who may have been his mother. There is also an Emma aged 5 (possible dau) but no sign of Elizabeth. There is a Mary but this may be the sister not the wife Mary Ann who is missing also.

Here is the link to that other thread that Spike mentions.   
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=741012.0

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Monday 08 February 16 04:44 GMT (UK)
Unfortunately I do not. The tree I have posted is not my own work and I have not verified all entires - the first one being that I do not agree with the presented baptism record for HENRY DAVEY I have found an alternate birth for him in Gwennup in 1809 to JOHN + PRISCILLA DAVEY which fits in much better with the ship records on the sibella, which do list him as having a birth circa 1810 in 1848. That is why I am concerned with using the 1818 baptism as it is not the only option for his birth and parentage.
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: Spike H on Monday 08 February 16 05:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks. Just asking, as there doesn't seem to be much documentation for him.
I can't find the 1810 reference on three shipping list transcriptions I've seen either.
Anyhow, off to check out Priscilla!
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Monday 08 February 16 05:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks Spike - PRISCILLA BECKERLEG + JOHN DAVEY married on 02 Aug 1806 in Gwennap, Cornwall, England, and had four children each two years approx after one another - HENRY DAVEY being bap in 25 Apr 1809 Gwennap, Cornwall, England, which seemed a lot more likely to me as a possible match?
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: majm on Monday 08 February 16 05:13 GMT (UK)
If we can find Henry's death registration, it is likely that document will give information about how long he lived the the colonies,  the details of his marriage, the details of his children, information about his parents, his then usual address, his cause of death, his age, his place of birth, his occupation, his place of burial, and other family history information.   Yes, some of that info will be already known, but it will help validate our OPs knowledge.

Fingers crossed he died in either Victoria or New South Wales (which at that time was far more extensive geographically than it is now).  Their death certs are quite detailed, more like Scottish certificates, whereas South Australia certs are more like English certs. 

In fact, as I posted on the other thread, if Mary Anne Davey's 1853 marriage certificate was obtained, it should include details Mary Anne supplied to the clergy confirming her widowhood (and the date of death of Henry !) and the details of her children from her marriage to Henry....   To me that is vital information to help the RChatter community find our OP's Henry.

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: osprey on Monday 08 February 16 10:12 GMT (UK)
I don't think the Henry baptised in Gwennap is yours, he is on the census for 1861 in Tywardreath with wife Elizabeth (marriage 1834 in Tywardreath) & children, 1871 in St Day, 1881 in Gwennap abode Pink Moors, buried in St Day 23 Oct 1889 age 80 abode Pink Moor.
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: osprey on Monday 08 February 16 10:15 GMT (UK)
just spotted Spike has also found this Henry on your other thread.

 :-[
Title: Re: Henry DAVY/DAVEY + Mary Ann SMITH Torpoint marriage - 1830 to 1840?
Post by: juliaanna1701 on Monday 08 February 16 10:17 GMT (UK)
just spotted Spike has also found this Henry on your other thread.

 :-[

Yes he is quick - in my defense it is two separate questions though! I got excited finding this board :)