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Research in Other Countries => Canada => Canada Lookup Request => Topic started by: FDH on Saturday 06 February 16 09:26 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to find any information on William James Skene and his family, he was my Great Uncle, William was born in 1903 in Maryculter, Aberdeenshire, Scotland and died in 1944, in Japan, he had a wife Gertrude Emma Sayer born 1919 Manitoba, Cananda. they married in 1941 in Christchurch Winnipeg, Canada. I know they had a daughter. I have all the info I can find on William but nothing on his wife or daughter, not even deaths, unsure as to whether Gertrude married again.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
Regards
FDH
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Hi FDH,
Hopefully the daughter is still a living person and RootsChat has a "no living person policy" - if she is not deceased you should remove her name.
Canada Voters List shows Gertrude (widow) living at 89 Harriett Street Manitoba in 1945 - also living at the same address Mr and Mrs Edward Huff -
Of course Gertrude Skene could have remarried - Canada does not have a BMD Index and also has very strict privacy laws - as a guide BMD Records are only available for births more than a 100 years ago, marriages 85 years ago which will make the search for Gertrude Skene difficult.
Sandra
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1921 census for St Clements Municipality Springfield Manitoba could show a possibility for Gertrude. Perhaps it is possible to try and trace the parents, in the hope of finding an obituary which would mention the married name of Gertrude.
Alexander Sayer 44 Flora Sayer 30
Russell Sayer 7 George Sayer 5
Valentine Sayer 3 Gertrude Sayer 2
Parents married 18 February 1915 St Clem, Manitoba, Canada - Alexander Sayer and Flora Lambert. (Maiden surname Kennedy)
http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php
Father of Flora Kennedy/Lambert/Sayer
http://www.peterfidler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=61
Flora Kennedy/Lambert/Sayer was an organist at St. Judes Anglican Church Grand Marais
https://www.stclementsheritage.com/index.php/heritage-articles/places-of-worship/anglican/st-judes-anglican
Canada Voters List shows Mrs Flora Sayer a widow living Springfield Manitoba in 1949 with Monty Sayer (fisherman) and Russell Sayer (labourer)
Sandra
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The 2004 Obituary for a brother George Sayer does not mention Gertrude..........
Winnipeg Free Press on June 26, 2004
GEORGE SAYER January 19, 1916 - June 23, 2004 Passed away peacefully on Wednesday, June 23, 2004 at Concordia Hospital with family by his side. He was predeceased by his parents, Alexander and Flora Sayer and his sons, Alvin and Lorne.....................etc etc
http://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-86960/name-George_Sayer/
Sandra
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Hi FDH ,
Not sure if you have seen this -
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/3151455/william_skene_gertrude_emma_sayer/
ev
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Brother Valentine Sayer was wounded in 1944 - The Winnipeg Tribune, 18 Jan 1944, Tue, Page 9
https://www.newspapers.com/clip/3151179/valentine_sayer/
Sandra
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Winnipeg Free Press March 14, 1960
Very short announcement of the marriage of J. daughter of the late Wm. Jas. Skene and Mrs. Harry Whittaker of Toronto.
Marriage took place at Carswell? Air force base in Texas-Feb 16. They don't mention the groom's name,though!
Maureen
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In her mother's obit Gertrude is Gertrude Moulday (wife of Bill) of Toronto.
Maureen
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Good one Maureen - they seem to disappear after the 1968 Canada Voters List for Rosedale Toronto
William Paul Moulday - Polisher and Gertrude at 402 A Queen Street East Rosedale Ontario ???
Sandra
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Brother Valentine's obit shows nothing :'(
Winnipeg Free Press on September 06, 2000
http://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-54714/name-Ryan_Thomas/order-publish_date%7CASC,last_name%7CASC,first_name%7CASC/page-315/
Sandra
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Obit for wife of Valentine - Cecilia Sayer (nee GRAY) - Winnipeg Free Press on December 25, 2010
http://passages.winnipegfreepress.com/passage-details/id-172833/name-Cecilia_Sayer/order-publish_date%7CDESC,last_name%7CASC,first_name%7CASC/page-473/
Sandra
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ev, yes I have seen this newspaper clip, I have it saved already. Ladies thank you so much for help, now you understand how much trouble I've been having trying to find any information.
FDH
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I can't seem to find the obit for Gertrude's mother
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Sorry!
Flora Sayer's obit is in the Winnipeg Free Press March 17,1988 .
Brother Monty Winnipeg Free Press September 12, 1997 says predeceased by sisters Lillian and Gertrude and a brother Russell.
Maureen
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thanks Maureen, this is a great help
regards
Fiona
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Sorry, can't find either Flora Sayer or Monty's obituaries?????
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Hi Fiona,
Where are you looking?
Maureen
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Winnipeg free press online, unless there is another site with same name but have checked both dates and nothing corresponding with these two is coming up. I see vals & 2 others but thats it and when I tried to look at a post it was asking me to sign in, which it's not asked me to do before?!!
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Hi Fiona,
If you PM me with your e mail addy I'll try to send the obits to you.
Best,
Maureen
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Thanks Maureen, will do
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Sent and thanks rec'd. :)
Maureen
PS: Hope no one minded me doing that.
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There is nothing coming up for a marriage for Gertrude & William Moulday or a death for her between 1988-1997. Guess I've found all I'm going to find :(
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Hello,
Emma Gertrude Sayer was my great aunt. Her daughter was June Skene. She passed away young, not exactly sure how old she was. She is buried on sayer street in Grand Marais Manitoba. She had a son named Barry. I believe he still lives here in Manitoba.
Hope this helps
Chelsea
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Hi Chelsea
I have June Carole Skene to have married twice, would this be correct? 1962 & 1964.
Fiona
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Hello,
I am not sure. I received this information by asking my father, Emma Gertrude sayer was his aunt and June was her daughter. The only information he knew was that he believed her to only have the one child (June Skene) and her to have the one son Barry. I am unsure of Barry's last name.