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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (West Riding) => Topic started by: Lombard on Sunday 31 January 16 15:48 GMT (UK)
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Trying to establish the marriage of a person born in Dottignies, Belgium .
The chap was Jules Henri Joseph Dermo. His surname may have Anglicisised from Dermeaux or Dermaux. He was born about 1864 and his wife was Ellen Ball. They lived at some point in the Horton area of Bradford.
I would be grateful for any leads??
Kind Regards.
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Do you know if they had any children?
Details don't quite match but there is a Jules Dereus born Dolligmer Belgium age 37 in 1901 Dover.
Wife is Nellie 35 born Linclonshire and they have a son Henri age 4 born Bradford.
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There is this marriage
Ellen Ball September qtr 1896 Middlesbrough 9d 849
On same page - Henry Daniel
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I don't know if you have seen this entry in the 1901 census. Sunderland Durham
Jules Decherck aged 34 Boarder shipping labourer Born Belgium Sub, Belgium.
There is also a Gerad Decherck aged 44 at the same lodging born Belgium.
There are too many similarities to ignore.
Regards Amber39
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Births Jun 1895
Dermo Nellie
Bradford, Y. 9b 111
Births Mar 1897
Dermo Jules Henri J
Bradford, Y. 9b 124
Deaths Jun 1895
Dermo Nellie age 0
Bradford, Y. 9b 62
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Marriage for Nellie Dermo in 1910 Bradford.
Baptism for Jules Henri Joseph Dermo 1897 Bradford.
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Baptism (from image)
St Johns Bradford
Jules Henri Joseph
born 1 Feb 1897
baptised 17 Mar 1897
parents Jules Henri Joseph & Nellie
surname Ball (crossed through) Dermo
address 8 Lansdown Place
father's occ Yarn merchant
Suz
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Do you know if they had any children?
Details don't quite match but there is a Jules Dereus born Dolligmer Belgium age 37 in 1901 Dover.
Wife is Nellie 35 born Linclonshire and they have a son Henri age 4 born Bradford.
and another child born Dover :-\
Births Dec 1901
DERMO Marie
Dover 2a 1054
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And there's more :)
Etienne Clifford Dermo
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1906
Parish: Bradford, St John
Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1907
Father: Julius Dermo
Mother: Nellie Dermo
JJ
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Nellie remarries -
Nellie Dermo, Widow
Age - 38
10 Aug 1910, St Andrew, Bradford, Yorkshire
Spouse - Thomas Rostron Goldthorp
Father - William Richard Ball
Spouse Father - William Ellis Goldthorp
JJ
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Etienne Clifford Dermo
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1906
Parish: Bradford, St John
Baptism Date: 2 Jun 1907
Father: Julius Dermo
Mother: Nellie Dermo
Address is 4 Howard’s Street, father’s occupation Foreign Traveller
Death entry for their sons
Jules Henri J Dermo Age 75
Birth Date: 1 Feb 1897
Dec 1972 Worth Valley Yorkshire West Riding
Volume: 2c Page: 195
Etienne Clifford Dermo age 76
Birth Date: 4 Jan 1906
Mar 1982 Sunderland Tyne and Wear
Volume: 2 Page: 2167
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Nellie remarries -
Nellie Dermo, Widow
Age - 38
10 Aug 1910, St Andrew, Bradford, Yorkshire
Spouse - Thomas Rostron Goldthorp
Father - William Richard Ball
Spouse Father - William Ellis Goldthorp
Here’s an Ellen Ball on 1871 /1881 census with a father named
William Richard Ball but she’s born earlier c1865 Tattershall Lincolnshire
1871c RG10; Piece: 3384; Folio: 5; Page: 3
School House Bridge Road Tattershall
Willm Richd Ball 32 Blackfriars, Midd. occ National school master
Mary Ann 32 Holborn
Emma Mary 7, ELLEN 5, Wilm Thos 3, Herbert 2, Julia 6 mths
All others born Tattershall
1881 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXD-MKP3
Ellen Ball age 15
Ellen Ball ch. 1865 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JQVR-FV3
As shame there's no occupation for her father on her m/c :-\
Ellen is not with family 1891 census RG12; Piece: 2556; Folio: 20; Page: 12
William R Ball, Mary Ann, d-I-l Harriet, Richard , Stephen C, Miriam, Ethel, William gd/son
1891c RG12; Piece: 1231; Folio: 16; Page: 26 Head John Geo Marriot Confectioner & Farmer
36 Bridge Street Peterbro'
Nellie Ball S 25 Tattershall Lincolnshire occ Help (dom.)
William’s wife Mary is widowed by 1901
only her daughters Miriam & Ethel are living with her
It looks possible that the above is Nellie/Ellen Ball's family
Ethel O'Breznen Ball of 77 Drummond Road Skegness spinster died 15 July at Moulands 3 Enville Road Bowden Cheshire Probate Date: 16 Sep 1959 to Harry DERMO general Sales manager
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Ethel O'Breznen Ball of 77 Drummond Road Skegness spinster died 15 July at Moulands 3 Enville Road Bowden Cheshire Probate Date: 16 Sep 1959 to Harry DERMO general Sales manager
When Jules Henri Dermo dies in 1972 the death is also registered as Harry Dermo
Deaths Dec 1972
DERMO Harry 1Fe1897 Worth Valley 2c 195
DERMO Jules Henri J 1Fe1897 Worth Valley 2c 195
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When Jules Henri Dermo dies in 1972 the death is also registered as Harry Dermo
Deaths Dec 1972
DERMO Harry 1Fe1897 Worth Valley 2c 195
DERMO Jules Henri J 1Fe1897 Worth Valley 2c 195
He married as Harry Dermo
29 Dec 1927 St Columba Bradford West Yorkshire
Harry Dermo 30 Asst. Sales Manager father Jules (deceased) Traveller
May Clark 28 f James C Clark Salesman
Both single, both res. 92 Arncliffe Terrace Horton
Witnesses Clifford Dermo & Marie Dalby (nee Demo),
Marie married 24 Apr 1926 f Joseph dec'd S??? Merchant one of the witnesses was Ethel O'B BALL