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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Aberdeenshire => Scotland => Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: lordlever on Tuesday 26 January 16 13:07 GMT (UK)
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Annie Fraser 1865 - 1943 Can any one in Aberdeen find a marriage to a James Chisholm 1863 - 1917 born Edinburgh I can find a marriage in Liverpool but wont to double check their is not a marriage in Scotland before moving to Liverpool both died in Liverpool.
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Have you checked Scotlands People?
www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
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www.lancashirebmd.org.uk shows the marriage was in 1887 at Our Lady & St. Nicholas & St. Anne
If you live in Liverpool - you can look the marriage up at the records office
Both James & Ann were b Scotland and their first 4 children shown on the 1901 census were also b Scotland.
I can't see another James & Ann/Annie Chisholm in Liverpool in 1891
The 1887 marriage cert will only tell you their respective fathers names - not mothers
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Carol their is somebody who has done a family tree with them geting married in scotland and as you can see by the childrens names its the same family but he will not get back in touch with me to discuss this. I have the 4 birth certificates all born in LIVERPOOL.
Thanks LL.
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Nobody has notified an amendment to the 1901 entry and the actual image shows all birthplaces as Scotland.
If those 4 children were all b Liverpool - it makes the 1887 marriage far more likely.
If you know the names of either James or Annie's fathers then your best way is to either buy a copy of the cert or look it up at the records office for free
The 1911 entry supports an 1887 marriage
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The marriage cert gives fathers as DANIEL CHISHOLM and ANDREW FRASER do these tie up in Scotland?
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As both were born after 1855 - their birth certs will be available to download from Scotlands People which is a pay per view site via credit purchase
There is no Scottish 1871 entry for a James Chisholm with a father Daniel. What was Daniel's occupation on the marriage cert?
See this English 1871 available on FS - birthyear 1861
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBJ7-JP5
What was Andrew's occupation on the marriage cert?
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Here's the link to the 1881 census - possibility for Annie living in Cheshire
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/2562194?collectionNameFilter=false
Here's the 1871 link to search for her in England
https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1538354?collectionNameFilter=false
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The 1871 for Scotland has this entry for Glasgow - all b Aberdeen and all shown as boarders
Andrew Fraser 28 engine fitter
Ann 24
Ann 6
Helen 1
Barbara Hudson 22
Glasgow Maxwell ED 79 Page 22 Line 5
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Hello all,
The Family CaroleW. was naming for James Chisholm, born 15/March/1861. Leith, Midlothian, to parents Daniel Chisholm, and Isabella Fraser, who were married 1856. Dunbar, East Lothian, Scotland, they also had a son Henry Chisholm, born 7/August/1857. Dunbar, East Lothian.
The Family are living Leith, Midlothian, in 1861.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Thanks all, so the LIVERPOOL marriage certificate is a bit of a duffer?
LL
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Why is it a bit of a duffer??
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Just for ref www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=740152.0
Monica :)
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Annie Fraser 1865 - 1943 Can any one in Aberdeen find a marriage to a James Chisholm 1863 - 1917 born Edinburgh I can find a marriage in Liverpool but wont to double check their is not a marriage in Scotland before moving to Liverpool both died in Liverpool.
There is NO marriage in the index at Scotland's People of a James Chisholm to an Ann* Fra*er between 1855 and 1891. I think that Liverpool one has to be correct, and it's the person who told you the marriage was in Scotland who is the duffer, not the Liverpool marriage.
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From my last reply on other thread
But in a reply on your other post you give the impression you have that cert as you quote their fathers names. You also say somebody else says they married in Scotland so are you quoting info from that person rather than your own personal research?
You were asked on your other post whether you had checked SP for a marriage - have you?
I can't understand your reluctance to accept the Liverpool marriage given that both James and Annie were living in Liverpool/Cheshire on censuses prior to the 1887 marriage as per info I have posted on your other thread
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From my last reply on other thread
Ah yes. Very confused, I am, thanks to there being two threads on the same family. I agree with you that the Liverpool marriage is the right one.
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Hello All,
The 1881. census for the Chisholm, family, ages are out, birth places are out for some but it is them.
47 Marion Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England,
Daniel Chisholm, Head, Boiler Maker, M. age 44 years, M, born Edinburgh, Scotland,
Isabella Chisholm, Wife, M. age 40 years, F. born Edinburgh, Scotland,
Henry Chisholm, Son, U. age 22 years, M. born Birkenhead, England,
Jarvis Chisholm, Son, age 19 years, M. born Ditto,
David Chisholm, Son, age 17 years, M. born Ditto,
Daniel Chisholm, son, age 13 years, M. born Ditto,
Isabella Chisholm, Daur, age 6 years, F. born Ditto,
John Chisholm, Son, age 8 years, M. born Ditto,
Cissie Chisholm, Daur, age 4 years, F. born Ditto.
No employment info for any of the children.
Also i think the Jarvis Chisholm, aged 19 years is the James Chisholm. the poster is looking for.
Close by 1881 census.
16 howard Street, Birkenhead, Cheshire, England,
Ann Fraser, Mother (Head), Navy Engine Fitters Wife, M. age 32 years, F. born Aberdeen, Scotland,
Ann Fraser, Daur, Dress Maker, U. age 16 years, born Aberdeen, Scotland,
Andrew Fraser, Son, Scholar, U. age 9 years, M. born Glasgow, Scotland,
Agnes Fraser, Daur, Scholar, U. age 7 years, F. born Sheffield, York, England,
Madglen Fraser, Daur Scholar, U. age 5 years, F. born Glasgow, Scotland.
Parents of Ann Fraser, born 14/Dec/1864, Old Machar, Aberdeen, were Andrew Fraser, married to Ann Mcdonald, 19/Sept/1864. Old Machar, Aberdeen.
Regards,
Jonn.
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Great census pointers for 1881, Jonn :) With everything commented on prior, looks like both the Chisholm and Fraser families prior to the marriage of son James and daughter Ann in Lancashire.
Monica
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Thank you every one for all your help :)