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Title: RNR record
Post by: petesdragon on Monday 25 January 16 22:14 GMT (UK)
can anyone assist in deciphering these record statements please.

Sorry having problem uploading will try again later... many thanks
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: josey on Tuesday 26 January 16 12:56 GMT (UK)
I suggest you post a higher resolution scan or request one from the document provider. I assume it is not against copyright to post the whole image?

Why don't you meanwhile have a go at some of it, post what you think & then perhaps someone can fill in the gaps  :). it'd be very satisfying for you to work some of it out.

I have rotated the image to make it easier  :D.
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: Milliepede on Tuesday 26 January 16 14:29 GMT (UK)
Maybe copy a section at a time to make it easier?  I can see "as wife is ill" down the page but probably best to do it in order. 
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: Janey2 on Tuesday 26 January 16 16:32 GMT (UK)
..cannot got to sea as wife is ill and cannot be left.  Wishes to work .........on land?
(med cert re wife attached)
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: josey on Tuesday 26 January 16 16:35 GMT (UK)
.on land?
ashore - I think
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: Janey2 on Tuesday 26 January 16 16:41 GMT (UK)
.on land?
ashore - I think

Yes, looking again, 'ashore' definitely.
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: josey on Tuesday 26 January 16 16:52 GMT (UK)
part of last section
9?.6.37 Still employed ashore, Wishes to ?proceed for ??......
If suitable employment has been ?? he

Returns? still suspended.

Petesdragon - are you around to tell us which bits you have had a go at? Or if you are able to obtain a better copy? And what you already know about the history of the person?
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: BushInn1746 on Tuesday 26 January 16 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hello

There are some abbreviated references, often seen on military forms and I presume RNR is Royal Naval Reserve. I see you have some suggestions, I always set the recognised words out on a plain piece of paper, with your line gaps and word gaps where you cannot read parts, or a whole line.

Some seems to be pay or allowances, with dates and authority references, or standard Form references and many references to Swansea, some might be Unit numbers and a Naval historian / enthusiast familiar with these forms, might be familiar with some of these.

My notes are in square brackets and my comments in square brackets, are not on scan.

19th October 1937
(16 ? 2 recd) [received]
Swansea 21.10.??
B.V.2. to Swansea 21.10
RV2 + 58B to Swansea 14/12/3?
?? 6262/32
    ?      ?      M.O. request pay
in ?

To Swansea to pay 1/6  17.12.32
Sch   ?34 Swansea 20-12-32   ?   NWO
Rob Swansea 14.7.34 Report over?
as above P&?  54 &  ?   ?   105
RVl said 102?   ?   ?   ?
  ?   ( ? )   ?       ?   105

Rob        layed
                 as wife
[line ?]
[line ?]
(med. cert re wife attached)
?    above ?  [date or reference] 3.14 ? Pay 3/4/ ?
[line ends] ..... before.

[lines not known]

[recognise the word in last paragraph] Swansea
[very last line] Return still suspended.

Set out what you can using the suggestions on the other replies, with your unknown words as gaps, then I usually read it over and over again, over several days and the harder to read words, occasionly spring to mind, or what they might be, when looking back at my copies of any documents.

I presume original is still with the military? Ask them for a better copy, worth a try?
Mark
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: petesdragon on Wednesday 27 January 16 20:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks one and all for your input, it has filled in some gaps, I have discovered that the original record is at National Archives UK and intend to pay a visit soon... not that far away. It seems fro what I can decipher, that if you joined the RNR in those days and became unemployed, seemingly you were not allowed on a training course.

Narrow minded people back then

Peter
Title: Re: RNR record
Post by: BushInn1746 on Thursday 28 January 16 13:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks one and all for your input, it has filled in some gaps, I have discovered that the original record is at National Archives UK and intend to pay a visit soon... not that far away. It seems fro what I can decipher, that if you joined the RNR in those days and became unemployed, seemingly you were not allowed on a training course.

Narrow minded people back then

Peter

Hello Peter

If visiting TNA, Kew, you will need their 'Readers Ticket', take your Passport or Driving Licence ID to prove officially your photo to your name, if you need one.
Plus two recent forms of printed ID with both your name and address on together. Official items posted to you, such as bank statements, tax notifications, C/Tax, Utility Bills (gas, water, electric), which have been posted to your address AND with your full name on, which matches your official photo ID., to get a 'Readers Ticket' to view original records. You will be given everything back straight away, once they have looked at them.

If in doubt telephone in advance, they are very pleasant and helpful people, but you must obey all the rules!

Bit surprised 1937 military stuff is at TNA, is it open or closed, best telephone them before going. An RAF personnel record would still be with MoD, or their archive, under their control.

Mark