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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Antrim => Topic started by: newmodernist on Monday 25 January 16 17:31 GMT (UK)
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Hello there!
I'm struggling with my 2nd great grandfather and his wife. I received my great-grandfather's death certificate from the records office which confirmed his birthdate for me - and with that (and his marriage record) I've managed to find his family on the 1901 and 1911 census' which list his dad as Robert and his mother as an Agnes..
so I've been looking for a marriage record between a Robert Craig and an Agnes, but I've spent quite a bit searching the online records office, and can't find a marriage between a Robert Craig and an Agnes in the time frame I think it probably happened (their oldest child was born 1893, so I've been looking around that time period)
Perhaps I've just missed it in my clicking, or perhaps I'm searching incorrectly? Any suggestions to what I should do at this point? If I paid for a birth certificate would that hold his mother's maiden name?
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Agnes is interchangeable with other names such as Nancy, Anne, Ann and sometimes even Hannah...
Do you know Agnes' maiden name?
Can you post the links to the census records as that may help find more details for you.
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Her maiden name is sadly what I'm looking for! Here are the census links:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Victoria/Convention/1217589/
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Victoria__part_of_/Convention_Street/224736/
I didn't know the name was interchangable - I'll look for some of those other names.
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The 1911 census is interesting since it says Agnes Craig married 29 years (c1882) & 4 children although the 3 listed only range in age from 14 to 18 :-\
Both Robert and Agnes shown as born Co. Down which may mean you need to expand your search area.
What is the name and birthdate of your great-grandfather?
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That is curious isn't it? I wonder where the other child is? I have expanded my marriage lookup to Down, but unfortunately since I've only been going on Agnes - that hasn't proved useful. I'll try again with the new info.
My great-grandfather was Robert Craig (there are far too many of these!) he was born February 8, 1895 in Belfast
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I just did a search of both Down and Antrim for a Robert Craig married between 1881 and 1883 *according to the 1911 census on length of marriage and came up with no Agnes', nor Anne's or Nancy's. Just Janes, Margarets, Marys, and a Harriet. :-\ I'll expand the years of the search, but as I said, with the poor searching at the site, it's costing a fortune to click through them all!
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from searches of births on GRONI I think that maiden name for Agnes might be Herron
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Interesting! I'll give a look for that name - how did you find her birth?
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from searches of births on GRONI I think that maiden name for Agnes might be Herron
Just about to post that! Thinking that George would be the easiest child to find there is this birth:
George Craig 1 Nov.1897 Belfast (mother- Herron).
No for a word of warning- birth certificates will list mother's maiden name but a marriage certificate will list present surname so a widow will appear under surname of deceased husband although her father's surname should also be listed on the actual certificate (unless illegitimate).
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4h child Jane - 7th Oct 91
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> I'll give a look for that name - how did you find her birth?
just search for birth for each child and look for the same maiden name appearing
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Marriage?
Robert Craig, son of William, m.(1882 Co.Down) Agnes Herron, daughter of Robert, according to one database
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Honestly, you people are incredible. I don't know how you do it. I wish I was half the researcher you guys are. I'm still baffled at how quickly you figured it all out while I had spent ages doing everything I could think of.
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> I'll give a look for that name - how did you find her birth?
just search for birth for each child and look for the same maiden name appearing
So simple, yet so smart. Thank you.
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Marriage?
Robert Craig, son of William, m.(1882 Co.Down) Agnes Herron, daughter of Robert, according to one database
AHH! It's all falling into place! I've been working on this side of the family for YEARS and you guys advanced me in mere minutes! I hope to one day be as good as you!
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Can I ask what the difference in date of birth is for my great-grandfather?
His death certificate lists it as February 8 1895, but looking at the GRONI entry for the Robert Craig born to Agnes Herron, it's listed as February 4 1895.
Please tell me this is something that happens, and this isn't another Craig entirely..
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Can I ask what the difference in date of birth is for my great-grandfather?
His death certificate lists it as February 8 1895, but looking at the GRONI entry for the Robert Craig born to Agnes Herron, it's listed as February 4 1895.
Please tell me this is something that happens, and this isn't another Craig entirely..
Very, very common even in more recent times. A cousin of my father has one date on his birth certificate, another date of birth in baptismal register with a third one in the family Bible yet his mother always insisted that all dates were incorrect!
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oh my! When does he celebrate? ;D
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I think he decided to use the 'official' birthdate on his birth certificate to make like easier ;)
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Hi I am also researching the Robert Craig and Agnes Heron family. I have only started on this recently and was wondering if you would like to compare notes.
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Hi I'm not sure if you have this or not but here goes
Agnes Herron married Robert Craig on the 24th of February 1982 Agnes was 23 and Robert was 24 and a labourer, Her father was Robert Herron occupation ploughman, his father was William occupation Labourer.
Witnesses were John Herron and Agnes Craig
Marriage took place in Hillsborough Church of Ireland.
Teap
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Sorry I haven't replied but yes I do have that information.