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Old Photographs, Recognition, Handwriting Deciphering => Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs => Topic started by: Rokkonz on Monday 25 January 16 03:43 GMT (UK)
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Hi,
A relative and I believe that this photo is of our 2x great grandmother Mary Cecilia Sinclair, but a third relative believes that it is in fact Mary's mother Jean.
I would appreciate it if someone might be able to have a go at estimating the age of my great grandmother & roughly what year it may have been taken.
We do not have an original for a better quality scan.
Any help would be much appreciated
Cheers, Rokkonz
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I have a very similar looking photo of my GGgrandmother taken before 1890 when she died aged 67 - but not too long before I don't think. Same headdress style and bodice style of her clothes.
I don't think it can have been toooo long before she died. Not more than 10 years anyhow I am guessing. Just a guess though - still can't find my dating book. :-\
The dating people will ask for the full photo with corners and back to be shown if you have them - they can tell things from seeing everything.
Wiggy
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As Wiggy says, before 1890 - I would say 1880's or possibly 1870's. The lady looks to be around 40.
Regards
AJ
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My guess would be 1880s and I think she looks late 40s early 50s.
Carol
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Can we see all of it + the back?
At present I would suggest early-mid 1880's.
The bodice is wrong for the 1870's & this pleated skirt didn't arrive until the early 80's.
I think she looks in her 60's.
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I'm with Jim - I think she looks in her 60s! ;)
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I'm with Jim - I think she looks in her 60s! ;)
Completely agree with an age in her 60s.
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Hi,
Thanks to everyone for their replies, I am unable to get the original at this stage but here is the photo border if it helps. I have also attached a confirmed photo of Mary aged 67 (taken in 1916) for comparison.
Cheers,
Rokkonz
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I'm with Jim - I think she looks in her 60s! ;)
Completely agree with an age in her 60s.
Hmmmm.......well now that I've seen her when she is 67, not sure what to think of her age in the first photo.
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Your original post says you are not sure who she is (i.e. the original photo) . . . and I'm not sure the second confirmed photo of Mary is of the same woman.
So the first could still be in her early-mid 60s. And the photographer might have 'tidied her up a bit'.
Wiggy :)
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Jean was definitely born in March 1823, which as you say Wiggy could still put her in her 60's in the 1880's like 3 out of 5 of you suggested in previous posts. She does also appear to have bags under her eyes when you zoom in which may support her being that age.
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I am not persuaded the two photos are the same woman.
The younger, I would say, is 55 to 60 in that photo.
Although there is some similarity around the mouth, there is a big difference in the position of the hairline, the older woman having a much lower forehead than the younger.
The arthritis which shows in the hands of the older woman is not evident in the younger.
Sue
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I think the first photo is more likely to be her Mother as there is a strong resemblance...the dates don't fit for it to be the same person in both photos.
Carol
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I agree that it's not the same person in both photos.
Photo 1 is consistent with someone born around the late teens - early 1820's.
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Thanks very much to everyone who has posted on this topic, you have done a good job in convincing me that this photo is in fact my 3x great grandmother Jean Sinclair (nee Mair). I appreciate your efforts! :)
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Just to add my three pennyworth - I really don't think they are the same woman. The lady in the first picture (aged 50's/60's) has a long face, and the lady in the second (even making allowance for losing her teeth) has a much more rounded face.
Sorry - don't know if that helps or hinders!
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It confirms what the rest of us think! ;) So probably helps!