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Title: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Tuesday 19 January 16 21:26 GMT (UK)
Hi I'm looking for information surrounding the death of my Great Great Grandmother Euphemia McLean McFadyen (nee Gardner) she was last seen alive on the 24th December 1900 and found later drowned in the River Clyde, Greenock, Scotland on the 17th January 1901. She was born around 1830 in Greenock I think and was about 70 years of age when she died.

I have the death certificate and the RCE report but as yet have found no other information on her.

She was married to Dugald McFadyen b.1833 believed to also be born in Greenock.

Any help would be gratefully received.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Tuesday 19 January 16 21:38 GMT (UK)
The RCE death report that I have.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Jytefas on Wednesday 20 January 16 12:32 GMT (UK)
Site might be worth a try: http://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/research/guides/fatal-accident-inquiry-records ..... cheers J.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 20 January 16 15:52 GMT (UK)

I have the death certificate and the RCE report but as yet have found no other information on her.

She was married to Dugald McFadyen b.1833 believed to also be born in Greenock.


These stories always so sad really.

Can you confirm what you mean when you mention you have no other info on her please. Have you got children from the marriage, censuses, her death cert?

Monica
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Wednesday 20 January 16 17:17 GMT (UK)
Thanks John that's most helpful,

MonicaL, sorry I can see where the confusion is, I didn't make myself clear what I meant by "I have no other information on her", but yes I do have a list of some of  her descendants, her birth and death certificates but what I meant by no other information was that I have no newspaper reports  or inquiry documents surrounding her mysterious disappearance and probable death on Christmas Eve 1900.

Hopefully someone can help in my research.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: DonM on Wednesday 20 January 16 17:36 GMT (UK)
I didn't see anything within the Newspaper Archive but the Watt Library might have something.  However, drowning deaths were very common and it might not even be published.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Wednesday 20 January 16 21:09 GMT (UK)
Hi thanks for your reply, I just thought with Euphemia  missing or drowned on Christmas Eve then it may of made the news,
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Wednesday 20 January 16 21:10 GMT (UK)
Oh and thank you very much for looking for me.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: MonicaL on Wednesday 20 January 16 22:51 GMT (UK)
I looked here www.inverclyde.gov.uk/community-life-and-leisure/libraries/archives-local-history-and-heritage/family-history/intimations-ii  Could see anything specific to Euphemia and her drowning...

Monica
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Thursday 21 January 16 07:05 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that, I couldn't find anything on her in there either. It just gets so frustrating not finding anything but I will keep searching.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Jytefas on Thursday 21 January 16 10:09 GMT (UK)
Afraid there's no mention of the drowning on the 'The British NEWSPAPER Archive' either. That site is a work in progress so maybe something will appear in future updates.... regards John
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Thursday 21 January 16 18:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that John your help has been very much appreciated.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: MonicaL on Thursday 21 January 16 18:57 GMT (UK)
Sure you have likely been through this too. Just adding the link for ref to the Watt Library Intimations 11:

Intimations II

The Watt Library Births, Marriages and Deaths index often lists the causes of death in the entries. On this page we have selected the major causes of death in the period 1800 to 1915 where they are considered to be out ot the ordinary, such as death by epidemic disease, murder, drownings, suicides and murders. We also list military deaths (including Army, Navy and Air Force casualties).

www.inverclyde.gov.uk/community-life-and-leisure/libraries/archives-local-history-and-heritage/family-history/intimations-ii

Had a look through the various databases but couldn't see anything for Euphemia unfortunately  :-\

Monica
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Thursday 21 January 16 19:37 GMT (UK)
Thanks ever so much MonicaL, your help has been greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: lismore on Thursday 21 January 16 22:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Gord Mc

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=GGgVawPscysC&dat=19140810&b_mode=2&hl=en
Glasgow Herald 18th January 1901, page 6, right-hand side, a small paragraph of 6 lines, discovery of Euphemias body.
 
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: Gord Mc on Thursday 21 January 16 23:30 GMT (UK)
Wow !! that is amazing lismore I am  so pleased,  you really are sensational. Thank you ever so much  for all the time and effort you have shown in trying to help solve this mystery of my Great, great grandmother. It really must of been horrendous finding the body as she had been missing since Christmas Eve 1900. I am over the moon that you found this newspaper article. I can't thank you enough.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: lismore on Friday 22 January 16 13:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Gord Mc

You are very welcome, just wish it could have been more.
 I too had been searching for a relative who had drowned, but in Stornoway Harbour, Isle of Lewis, can be very emotional reading, when you find it.
Title: Re: Mystery of Euphemia McFadyen nee Gardner Christmas Eve 1900
Post by: MonicaL on Friday 22 January 16 13:44 GMT (UK)
Great result, Lismore  ;)

Monica