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Title: Ketterick
Post by: Fergie38 on Tuesday 19 January 16 19:59 GMT (UK)
Could someone dig up some info on this family.
It's part of my wife's mother's family that I looked into years ago but it was sidelined and never restarted.
I think most of the family settled in the Stirling and Cowie areas.

Cheers

(http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee209/38fergie/Kettrick%20Family%20Chart_zps9tevar5o.jpg)
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 19 January 16 23:20 GMT (UK)
A mixture of FindMyPast & Ancestry transcriptions

1871 - 9 Main Street, Alloa
'Teddy' Ketterick, age 31, Maltman, born Ireland
Catherine, wife, age 30, born Perthshire
Children: John, age 2, born St. Ninians
James, age 4 months, born Alloa

1881 - Mar Place, Alloa
Titus Ketterick, age 36, General Labourer, born Ireland
Catherine, wife, age 35, born Perthshire
Children: John, age 12, born St. Ninians
Edward, age 8, born Alloa
George, age 6, born Clackmannan
Catherine A., age 1, born Alloa
James, age 1 month, born Alloa (1st James must have died)
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 19 January 16 23:29 GMT (UK)
1891 (FindMyPast) as 'Kettrick'

Living at Devon Square, Clackmannan
Titus, age 50, Coal Miner, born Ireland
Catherine, age 48, born Perthshire
Children: John, age 22, Coal Miner, born Whins of Milton
Edward, age 18, Coal Miner, born Alloa
George, age 16, Coal Miner, born Clackmannan
Catherine age 11, born Alloa
James, age 10, born Clackmannan
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Tuesday 19 January 16 23:34 GMT (UK)
1901, again as 'Kettrick'

Living at 21 Devon Square, Alloa, Clackmannanshire

Catherine, age 61, widow, born Stirling
Children: Catherine, age 21, Mill Worker Feeder, born Alloa
James, age 20, Coal Miner, born Clackmannanshire

There seems to be some confusion as to where Devon Square actually is (not mentioning the confusion over places of birth!)

Anne  ;D
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: DonM on Wednesday 20 January 16 02:20 GMT (UK)
Your post didn't click until now.

Baptised "K"atherine Dochart was the wife and mother, daughter of James/Janet Maxwell b 1837 Kincardine, she had a sister Mary and a brother Peter.  Her sister Mary married William Gillespie in Denny in 1861.  Peter was married twice, he was found in the Clyde in 1901. 

I'm a distant relative of Mary's via the Gillespie line.  If you wish any of the BMD documents I have on the Dochart's send me a PM with your email address and I will send them your way.

Don
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: Fergie38 on Wednesday 20 January 16 20:24 GMT (UK)
 Hello Anne, Nice to hear from you again.
Thank you for all that interesting info.
They seem to have had problems in remembering their ages.
In the ten years between 1871 and 1881 Catherine has only aged by 5 years.
The next 10 year period she ages by 13 years and then it's another 13 years.
And James being the second son with that name. Brill that you picked that out.
According to Google Earth, there is no such place as Devon Square
Very confusing.

...A great big thanks to you.   :)

Don...Any info you can give me on the Dochart's would be great. Also with any info on Catherine's siblings. I think the name Dochart is still used as a middle name by some of the Kettrick family.
I will try and get my email address to you.

With thanks.

               Robert.
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 20 January 16 22:00 GMT (UK)
You're very welcome Fergie!

There's LOADS of Kettericks/Kettricks in and around Clackmannanshire, so if you want details, just give me a shout.

Regarding the discrepancies in ages etc., - only the original images would verify the details as these transcriptions are notoriously unreliable. I believe there was a Devon Square in Sauchie, but then again, there's the Devonvale area at Tilli? Who knows?!!
Where ever it was, Clackmannan being the 'Wee County', all these villages are only a few miles apart anyway.

I think the following is son John, his wife, kids and some extras:

1891, Living at Argyle Street, High Church, Paisley
Head, William McCamley, Widower, age 33, Iron Monger, born Ayr
Children: Susan B., age 8, born Glasgow
JL (son), age 5, born Glasgow
William, age 3, born Paisley
Agnes Lindsay, niece, age 10, born Maybole
John Ketterick, Rail Porter/Visitor, age 31, born Stirling
Jane Ketterick, Visitor, age 29, born Maybole
Edward Ketterick, Visitor's son, age 2, born Paisley
William Ketterick, Visitor's son, age 1, born Paisley


Then .....

1901, Living at 7 Barclay Street, Paisley
Head John Kettreck, Rail Porter, age 41, born Clackmannanshire
Wife Jane, age 39, born Maybole
Children: Edward, age 12, born Paisley
William, age 11, born Paisley
John, age 8, born Paisley
Maggie, age 3, born Paisley
Kate, age 9 months, born Paisley
And
Agnes McCamley, age 21, Thread Mill Worker (Spooler), niece, born Maybole
Susan McCamley, age 18, Cotton Spinner, niece, born Glasgow
John McCamley, age 15, Railway Clerk, nephew, born Glasgow
Jane McCamley, age 14, Thread Mill Worker (Spooler), niece, born Glasgow
William McCamley, age 13, nephew, born Paisley

Anne   ;D


Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 20 January 16 22:12 GMT (UK)
Found it!!

Devon Square was in Fishcross, see: http://maps.nls.uk/view/83546244

And: http://maps.nls.uk/view/83546247

Anne  ;D
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 20 January 16 23:04 GMT (UK)
there's the Devonvale area at Tilli? Who knows?!!
Where ever it was, Clackmannan being the 'Wee County', all these villages are only a few miles apart anyway.

Hi Folks,

I would imagine "Tilli" would be Tillicoultry which is pronounced "Tillicootry"

Annie
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: Rosinish on Wednesday 20 January 16 23:19 GMT (UK)
Catherine, age 61, widow, born Stirling

Death cert. on SP 1891 - 1901 should name both parents (with mother's m/s) for Titus (if known by informant)

Annie
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: apanderson on Wednesday 20 January 16 23:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the additional info Annie.

I knew Fergie would know 'Tilli' was Tillicoutry and the question mark wasn't really about that, it was more questioning if Devon Square was perhaps there. (We know now where it is).

Anne
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: Fergie38 on Monday 25 January 16 20:10 GMT (UK)
Thanks again Anne for that additional info.
I've uncovered an A4 sheet of paper drawn up by one of the Kettrick that refer to John Kettrick as 'Sauchie John'  The village of Sauchie is only a mile or so from Devon Square.
The paper doesn't name John's wife and only names three children.
I've heard or read somewhere that one of the Kettrick's was known as 'Old Sebasapol' so he must have been an ex-army man.

Thanks too to Rosinish for you help.

Cheers.

   Robert.
Title: Re: Ketterick
Post by: macalloa on Tuesday 16 February 21 19:49 GMT (UK)
Good Evening - I've just stumbled upon this thread more or less by accident.

Thaddeus (aka Teddy/Ted) Ketterick 1894-1953 married Julia Purcell 1890-1949 in Alloa in 1923.

Julia was the older sister of my maternal grandmother. The couple had no children, although both had several siblings.

If I've done my basic homework correctly, Teddy's father was John Kettrick 1871-1933, although his birth year might be 1869/1870, records are a bit unclear. So I'm thinking that would be John's photo at the start of this thread.

So Ted's paternal grandfather would be Titus, born in Ireland 1845 or thereabouts.

Teddy was a miner and lived in the miner's row 12 Devon Village, Fishcross, near Sauchie. I believe his brother Alexander may have lived a few doors away at some point.