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Title: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: Heidi73 on Monday 18 January 16 17:45 GMT (UK)
Hi there,

I am new to Rootschat and have just started work on my husbands family tree.  He has an Italian great -great grandfather Daniel Stackini who was living in New Castle and owned a boarding house - 3 Carliol Square  (Wards Trade directory 1883, 1890, 1898). On his Marriage certificate to Alice Potts in 1855 he was listed  what appears to be a "model maker" but in 1891 census he was a lamplighter.
On the marriage certificate his father is Bartholomew Stackini but he doesnt appear in any censuses or searches in the UK.

My question is how do I find out where Daniel Stackini came from and trace the records further back?  Any ideas??

Also how do I add the list of surnames everyone has here on the end of their posts please??

Thank you Heidi Richards
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: LisaRobinson87 on Monday 18 January 16 17:54 GMT (UK)
There are a few trees on Ancest but they would need looking into at how accurate they are but they do have Daniels surname as originally as been Ostacchini they also have

Daniele Giuseppe Ostacchini 26th April 1828 death 1906 Newcastle
Father Bartolomeo Ostacchini 1791 - 1880 death Italy
Mother Maria Granelli 1794- 1869 Death Italy
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: LisaRobinson87 on Monday 18 January 16 18:29 GMT (UK)
There's a Daniele Ostachini traverling with a Pangrazio Ostachini to the Uk from France on the City of Boulogne 19th December 1844 it has Italy at the side so that could mean where they came from.

On the trees online they have 9 siblings for Daniel and one of them is a

Antonio Panarazio Stachini
1824–1880
BIRTH 29.01.1824 • Valdena, Parma, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
DEATH 04.09.1880 • 9 Deanhaugh Street, Edinburgh, Midlothian

So it is possible that the Ship details are for the two Brothers coming to the UK together
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855 - Thanks Lisa
Post by: Heidi73 on Monday 18 January 16 22:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Lisa, Thank you so much. I have been using the Genes Reunited site. Its seems that Ancestry.com? May have more information. Did you find the immigration and ship records on there also?

Thank you for your help - that's great. I

Heidi
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: LisaRobinson87 on Monday 18 January 16 22:52 GMT (UK)
Yes i found them on Ancestry.co.uk there is a few trees on there that might interest you if you where to join
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 19 January 16 04:32 GMT (UK)
just to note his daughter Ellen is listed on Lancashire BMD as  Ellen Stackin b 1859   born in the sub district of St George,mothers maiden name POTTS.
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 19 January 16 04:36 GMT (UK)
Lancashire online parish clerk has Ellens baptism as

Baptism: 4 Sep 1859 St Joseph, Ancoats, Lancashire, England
Helena Stackin - filia Danielis Stackin & Alitia (formerly Spott)
    Born: 22 Aug 1859
    Godparents: Nicolaus Sanguiniti; Catharina Morriss
    Baptised by: P. N. Stephan
    Register: Baptisms 1858 - 1865, Page 81
    Source: Original Register at LRO Preston
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: gortonboy on Tuesday 19 January 16 05:04 GMT (UK)
in case Nicholas is any relation...in 1881 he is transcribed on Findmypast as

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
School Yard, 8, (Lever Street), Manchester, Lancashire, England

Nichales   Sanagto   Head   Widower   Male   53   1828   Musician   Italy 

in 1861 he is a boarder here,described as professor of music b Italy.

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
19, Kings Head Yard, Preston, Lancashire

Nicholas Steedley b 1827
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: fiddlerslass on Wednesday 20 January 16 10:44 GMT (UK)
Hi

May be Daniel's brother & family in Scotland 1871

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/results?count=20&query=%2Bsurname%3Astachini~&collection_id=2028678

Perhaps he put his birthplace on the image, if you are lucky?
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: Ripsnorter on Saturday 06 February 16 10:28 GMT (UK)
My ancestor was Antonio Panarazio Stachini, he was also a Stucco Figurine Maker.. If you want access to my family tree just let me know. The tree goes back to about 1720 in Valdena, Parma, Italy.
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: nelami on Thursday 08 December 16 18:21 GMT (UK)
I've only just come across this thread. I have been researching the Ostacchini for many years now and most of the trees on Ancestry are copies of my work. I do have some gaps to fill one of which is Daniele's descendants. As he produced daughters who went on to marry local men with common family names I've had difficulties researcing them. I have met with a descendant on the Davison line who is also researching and have provided them with a copy of my research but received nothing in return. I've had a quick scan through this thread and there appears to be some additional data for me. All the Stachini in the UK descend from Pangrazio & mine from their younger brother Antonio. I'd love to receive any data that you all have on Daniele's descendants
Nello Ostacchini webmaster Anglo-Italian Family History Society
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: nelami on Thursday 08 December 16 18:28 GMT (UK)
Meant to add that Pangrazio came over first in the early 1840s. After finding work in London he returned to Valdena and brought his brother Daniele back with him as show in the shipping record mentioned
Title: Re: Italians in Newcastle - Stackini 1855
Post by: Maiden Stone on Thursday 08 December 16 22:40 GMT (UK)
My GGGF was a lamplighter on his last census.  It may have been a job done by elderly, semi-retired men before old age pensions were introduced.