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Title: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: markheal on Saturday 09 January 16 01:59 GMT (UK)
Are these two women,  sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Where were they born?

http://www.thepeerage.com/p4852.htm#i48520
Ernestine Apolonia Stix
Last Edited=14 Aug 2005
     Ernestine Apolonia Stix is the daughter of Emil Stix. She married Arthur Charles Constantine Hervey, son of Reverend John Frederick Arthur Hervey and Emily Ely, on 8 October 1930.

She dies DEATH OCT 1988 • SHREWSBURY Shropshire, England
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Herta Lena MAUFE nee STIX
BIRTH 14 OCT 1914
DEATH JULY 2004 • SHREWSBURY Shropshire, England
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Herta Lena STIX was married three times:
 
ANASTASIADES    Herta L MAUFE    London C. 5d   378
WALDEGG  Herta L        MAUFE    London C. 5d   378
STIX     Herta L        MAUFE    London C. 5d   378
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Married in 1932 Bombay India to:
Euripides Panayoti Anastasiades
BIRTH 19 MAR 1896 • Cyprus
DEATH MAR 1983 • SURREY SOUTH EASTERN Surrey, England
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I have yet to find the marriage to WALDEGG.
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I connect with:
Anthony de Lisle Brantwood Maufe Acting Pilot Officer
BIRTH abt 1916 • ​Southern Rhodesia ???
DEATH 22 AUG 1985 • Bulawayo, Zimbabwe

Many thanks for your help!
Mark

Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: willsy on Saturday 09 January 16 21:40 GMT (UK)
All I can find so far is Herta and her husband coming back to England 1946, going to an address in Felixstow.
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Saturday 09 January 16 21:53 GMT (UK)
ERNESTINE APOLONIA HERVEY
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Collections from Great Britain
Country England
County Shropshire
Year 1988
Birth Year 1907
Event Quarter 4

Ernestine Apolonia Hervey did not die that long ago, only 1988

HERTA LENA G MAUFE
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Collections from Great Britain
Country England
County Shropshire
Year 2004
Birth Year 1914
Event Quarter
3
District SHREWSBURY

Herta Lena Maufe only died in 2004. The two women are born 7 years apart.
 
I think they might both be of Austrian/German or Hungarian decent
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Saturday 09 January 16 22:03 GMT (UK)
There is a Lena Stix aged 28 in 1904 going into America born in Germany (Berlin) but she is a wife.

Clearly not your Herta Lena Stix age wise

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E P ANASTASIADES (EURIPIDES PANAYOTI ANASTASIADES?)
Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Collections from
Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
CountryINDIA
Title MR
Ship Name QUEEN OF BERMUDA
Birth Year 1895
Age 51
Ship Departure Port LIVERPOOL
Destination Port BOMBAY
Departure Year 1946

Details on paysite Findmypast

Given that Heta died in only 2004 you really need a family member to pm you her fathers name
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 09 January 16 22:05 GMT (UK)
Family Search has Emil as Herta's father on marriage

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGV5-CY5
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: heywood on Saturday 09 January 16 22:19 GMT (UK)
The Hervey/Stix wedding announcement in The Bury Free Press states that Ernestine is the daughter of Herr Emil Stix of Vienna.
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Saturday 09 January 16 22:27 GMT (UK)
So I wonder why Herta Stix was in India?

Does Emil Stix appear in India to?

Did Emil Stix of Vienna ever go to England?
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Saturday 09 January 16 22:39 GMT (UK)
Departures extracted from the Times of India newspapers for the year 1878

Date     4 Feb   
Year     1878   
Ship Name     Bokhara   
P&O Co steamship   
Commander     Captain W D Anderson   
Passenger Surname     Anastasiades   
other names     P   
Title     Mr   
Port of disembarkation     Brindisi    Ship Destination     Southampton   
Port of embarkation     Bombay   
year     1878   
Times of India Edition     5 Feb   

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/aps_detail.php?id=1866925

Not sure how you would search "The times of India" for the Anastasiades/Stix marriage or would she have been Herta Waldegg or Herta Maufe and a wife of someone that took her to India?
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: willsy on Saturday 09 January 16 22:46 GMT (UK)
There is a 1963 snippet view Debretts entry in google books

..19S0, Ernestine Apollonia, dau. of Emil Stix, of Vienna. Residence, — 15, Bacton Road, Felixstowe, Suffolk

Passenger list incoming for Herta c1915 address is as 17 Queen's road, Felixstowe, might be another way to look round it.
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: markheal on Saturday 09 January 16 23:53 GMT (UK)
I wonder if anybody has a World subscription to lookup this man with his relatives?

Emil Hugo Stix
   Rudolph Heinrich,
        Emilie Auguste

Thanks for all your careful efforts!
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 January 16 00:51 GMT (UK)
There is this on FS

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NFWQ-GFD

You can see that the child died. There are other births - with deaths- for children to the same parents if you look on Family Search.
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Sunday 10 January 16 10:09 GMT (UK)
I wonder if this is Herta's daughter?
Births Jun 1953 
MAUFE    Amanda H G    STIX    Marylebone    5d   400

She appears to have married and had issue
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 January 16 10:34 GMT (UK)

I connect with:
Anthony de Lisle Brantwood Maufe Acting Pilot Officer
BIRTH abt 1916 • ​Southern Rhodesia ???
DEATH 22 AUG 1985 • Bulawayo, Zimbabwe

Many thanks for your help!
Mark

According to this account Anthony was the son of Herbert Brantwood Maufe/Muff.  http://www.s2a3.org.za/bio/Biograph_final.php?serial=1868
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Sunday 10 January 16 11:13 GMT (UK)
free bdm
Marriages Sep 1914   
Thompson    Doris L    Maufe    St.Geo.H.Sq.    1a   1183

Can't find Henry Maufe/Muff
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Sunday 10 January 16 11:19 GMT (UK)
Arthur Charles Constantine HERVEY, Indian Education Service, Kaisar-i-Hind Gold Medal, born 18 December 1886, educated at Marlborough College, and King’s College Cambridge (BA 1909, MA 1921), married 8 October 1930 Ernestine Apolonia STIX, daughter of Emil STIX, of Vienna, and died without issue January 1968

https://www.burkespeerage.com/distinguishedFamilies_Bristol.php

The Kaisar-i-Hind Medal for Public Service in India was a medal awarded by the British monarch between 1900 and 1947, to "any person without distinction of race, occupation, position, or sex ... who shall have distinguished himself (or herself) by important and useful service in the advancement of the public interest in India.

wikipedia

Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: whiteout7 on Sunday 10 January 16 11:27 GMT (UK)
Arthur Charles Constantine HERVEY's parents Lord Arthur Charles Hervey and Patience Singleton were married in India.

Grooms Surname   Hervey
First names   Arthur
Brides Surname   Singleton
First names   Patience
Year   1839
month   Jul
day   29

http://search.fibis.org/frontis/bin/simplesearchsummarycat.php?s_id=779&sn=hervey&fn=arthur&f=&to=&t=&c=&searchtype=soundex&tn=1
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: heywood on Sunday 10 January 16 14:39 GMT (UK)

I connect with:
Anthony de Lisle Brantwood Maufe Acting Pilot Officer
BIRTH abt 1916 • ​Southern Rhodesia ???
DEATH 22 AUG 1985 • Bulawayo, Zimbabwe

Many thanks for your help!
Mark

According to this account Anthony was the son of Herbert Brantwood Maufe/Muff.  http://www.s2a3.org.za/bio/Biograph_final.php?serial=1868

Apologies, Mark. I understand the connection now.
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: willsy on Monday 11 January 16 21:33 GMT (UK)
I was looking at the 3 German names you gave and came across this one

Egon Peter Stix

U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name:    Egon P Stix
SSN:    552740731
Gender:    Male
Race:    White
Birth Date:    10 Aug 1923
Birth Place:    Vienna Vienn, Austria
Father Name:    Emil Stix
Mother Name:    Josefine Mittag
Death Date:    15 Feb 2001
Type of Claim:    Original SSN.
Notes:    May 1964: Name listed as EGON P STIX

Have just found him on a passenger list with his name crossed out, occ hotelier

UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name:    Egon Stix
Gender:    Male
Departure Date:    15 Jun 1955
Port of Departure:    Southampton, England
Destination Port:    Montreal, Canada
Ship Name:    Ryndam

Other links

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JTHZ-236

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KTQT-TGJ
 
Will have another look but did you also notice a Gertrude (A) Stix who makes an appearance for 2 marriages 1938 & 1953 ?
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: Phoenix18 on Tuesday 03 December 19 15:27 GMT (UK)
Hi
They are sisters they are my great aunts. Also a sister to Charlotte Brady
Why are you looking this up?
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: Phoenix18 on Tuesday 03 December 19 15:30 GMT (UK)
wonder if this is Herta's daughter?
Births Jun 1953 
MAUFE    Amanda H G    STIX    Marylebone    5d   400

She appears to have married and had issue

In response to the above. This is also correct. Amanda sadly died due to alcoholism and we no longer have contact with her son or husband
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: markheal on Wednesday 04 December 19 21:27 GMT (UK)
Greetings to you Phoenix18,
I have husband of Amanda:
Philippe Andre CYWAN 1937-2007 and son Max.
Do you have death details for Amanda?
What do her initials H.G. stand for?
Do you have death details for Amanda's mother Josette SIMONETT 11 Oct 1915-- ?
Please say how Charlotte BRADY fits in.
I link with Gladys Evelyn Prudence STUTCHBURY 1883-1976, wife of Sir Edward Brantwood MUFF later MAUFE 1882-1974.
Do you have a family tree that I might view?  I am happy to help you with my research.

Many thanks for being in touch.
Mark
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: Phoenix18 on Wednesday 04 December 19 22:55 GMT (UK)
Hi
Amanda’s mother is Herta Maufe
I do not know the other name you mentioned

Herta, Gertrude, Ernestine and Charlotte are sisters, daughters of emil STIX from Austria. They moved here because of ww2.
I do not have any death details or a family tree. I just searched for my aunts name to see how she was linked to lord HERVEY and this thread came up to my surprise
Title: Re: Are these two women, sisters with same Emil STIX father please?
Post by: JackieSteelEwald on Saturday 18 July 20 18:02 BST (UK)
I believe J Simonet is Philippe Andre Cywan's mother according to an engagement announced Oct 27 1961in The Times UK to Miss Elizabeth Ann Bedford, his first wife. Elizabeth remarried 1991 to Anthony G Snow so I'm not sure of exact divorce date with Philippe. Not sure if that helps with your original post!