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Research in Other Countries => South Africa => Topic started by: pjh80 on Wednesday 06 January 16 20:21 GMT (UK)
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Hi All,
I am seeking any information on my Great Great Grandfather Timothy Hogan who I believe joined the Cape Infantry in 1882
Originally from Ireland, he served with the British Army in India from 1872 to 1879 and was then released to the army reserve. He left the reserve to join the Cape Infantry in 1882. I believe he may have sailed on the SS Nubian from Southampton to Cape Town along with his wife Urcilla. They were back in Ireland before 1890 - probably leaving once the Cape Infantry was disbanded.
Any pointers on how/where to access records for the Cape Infantry and/or the incoming passenger list for the SS Nubian would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks! Padraig Hogan
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Hi,
I found an army record and it says Timothy Hogan discharged 1882 intended residence CAPE.
His Regiment Number 15.
Do you have his Army papers?
He joined in Dublin on the 21st June 1873 @ 4.30pm.
These papers at this time didn't include parents names.
You may be able to pick this up from his marriage record.
Let me know if this is the correct one.
Maggsie
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Hi Maggsie, Many thanks for the reply.
Yes, that is the correct one. I believe I have all his Army papers - They specifically say that he requested to leave the reserve to join the Cape Infantry. My understanding is that the Cape Infantry records would not be part of the British Army Archive and if they exist would be held in South Africa.
I have also found on Findmypast, multiple articles from the Falkirk Herald & Linlithgow Journal detailing the voyage to the Cape and subsequent deployment of some of the the Cape Infantry. It seems the paper had a contributor (J Aitken) who was attached to the Infantry. In several articles he makes reference to his "Irish friend Hogan" (no first name ever used sadly). The initial reports are from aboard the SS Nubian. It seems likely that this individual would be my relative, especially as it also references Mrs Hogan, and Timothy had married in late 1881. I already have his parents names from his baptismal record (Cork City).
I believe that I have found most online records of his life up to 1882 and after 1891 (when his 3rd child was born in Dublin). If, as seems very likely, he went to The Cape, this would explain the 9 year gap in the records, so I'm seeking any records of his time there.
Thanks, Padraig
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Hi,
I went to Ancestry and saw your tree.
I googled the Cape infantry, there are a few things on line.
I looked in the Natioanlarchives.gov. site for the UK at Kew, there are a few things listed.
I see Phillip and Hubert at number 166 Toownsend Street in 1901 and Hubert in 2 in Letterfrack (Ballynakill, Galway) in 1911.
the only other record I found was in the 1911 census, he was in this lodging house. That's where I spotted he had 5 children.
Residents of a house 52 in Poolbeg Street (Trinity Ward, Dublin)
On the household return form, look at number 7.
I think that's about all you may find.
I will look at your tree again.
Ok
Maggsie
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I cannot find a record of Timothy Hogan in the Cape Infantry in South Africa, but that is not surprising as so many men joined. However I did find a suggestion on a site that the Medal Rolls at the National Archives, Kew - W0100 - would be a place to look.
Hope that helps
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Hi
passenger lists for the Nubian can be found here:
http://www.safrika.org/schiff_en.html
But I don't see a Hogan on any of them before 1890 but may be worth a look yourself
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I just found military records for Timothy's son James which shows his birth as 1883 in King Williamstown South Africa. As this is where the Cape Infantry was based, it seems fairly certain that he did in fact join.
The Nubian passenger lists online only show the German passengers that embarked at the start of the voyage in Germany. They were joined by at lot of UK passengers at Southampton. I guess there would be an immigration record in S.A. of the passengers that disembarked at Cape Town ?