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General => The Common Room => Topic started by: Ray T on Monday 04 January 16 15:39 GMT (UK)
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I thought I was getting the hang of what the 1939 will reveal but now I'm not so sure. I have a known household comprising the following -
Father "LT" b.1899 - d.1981 therefore should be shown
Mother "FT" b.1902 - d.1980 therefore should also be shown
Son "LAT" b.1925 - d.2003 therefore should not be shown - assumed still alive unless proven otherwise.
(i) Looking down the list for the street on which they lived gives all three people.
(ii) Clicking on LT gives LT+FT+ person officially closed (i.e. LAT) as I'd expect.
(iii) Clicking on FT gives FT+LT+ person officially closed ditto
(iv) Clicking on LAT gives LAT+LT+ person officially closed who can only be FT but she isn't "officially closed".
Am I missing something?
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Some of us on a similar thread had found the same thing and it was thought that not all the records in one household have been updated at the same time, either on purpose (???) or by error. That might be what's happened in your case too.
Pat
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Which thread was that Pat? Some of them are several miles long which is why I started a new one.
Thanks
R
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Lostcousins.com has great info on 1939. Lookin2
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Which thread was that Pat? Some of them are several miles long which is why I started a new one.
Thanks
R
Hi Ray
I've never done a link before so apologies in advance if it doesn't work
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=737932.0
Pat
Added: Yes! It worked. Read down the thread, you'll see what I mean ,(it's not long)
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Thanks Pat. I suspect it's probably another one of FindMyPast's little foibles. There are so many things on that site which don't work as they should (especially if you are a MAC user). I only subscribe 'cos they have the Cheshire Parish Registers - well most of them and, even then, only the parts of them that you can actually find!
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I can confirm that after a person in a household passes the 100 year embargo rule, the stats for everyone else in the household remain unchanged and still show them as unavailable.
Thus in the example I found with three people, P1, P2 and P3 of which the last was born 1917 but is now viewable, appear as thus:
Looking for P1 shows P1 + P2 +1 unavailable;
Looking for P2 shows P2 + P1 +1 unavailable;
Looking for P3 shows P3 + P1 +1 unavailable!
As an aside they all appear with the surname N which subsequently changes to the correct (though mis-spelt) surname. Has anyone else found this?
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My father who died in 2003was closed when the 1939was first released. He is now visible to everyone so they may be updating the records as the information is processed.
Regards
Panda
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I would agree with that Panda. I've had an email from Find My Past about new records and one of them is for the 1939. They call it New Additions to the 1939 Register - 60,000 Additional Records. I take that to mean that 60,000 closed records are now open - to quote:-
"New records have been opened up and are now available to search and explore."
You can open closed records but only if you have the relevant death certificate as Find My Past ask you to send a scan of it. I did that with a couple of my relatives as I had their death certs.
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I've also had the email (I'm no longer a subscriber) and I suspect that they're now using the information provided by subscribers as a marketing opportunity.
What next? Are we going to see a selection of recent death certificates made available?
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Prompted by last week's FindMyPast Friday, I've been going through the 1939 for my one-name study people again.
I've been surprised by the number of people now visible who were born in the 1930s, and for whom I have not yet traced a death. I have already extracted the deaths from the GRO fiche as far as the end of 2015.
It's possible that I've missed some, such as the woman who married into one of my families, and then remarried after a divorce. It seems unlikely that FindMyPast would go to the trouble of tracing through two or more marriages though.
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I can confirm that after a person in a household passes the 100 year embargo rule, the stats for everyone else in the household remain unchanged and still show them as unavailable.
Thus in the example I found with three people, P1, P2 and P3 of which the last was born 1917 but is now viewable, appear as thus:
Looking for P1 shows P1 + P2 +1 unavailable;
Looking for P2 shows P2 + P1 +1 unavailable;
Looking for P3 shows P3 + P1 +1 unavailable!
As an aside they all appear with the surname N which subsequently changes to the correct (though mis-spelt) surname. Has anyone else found this?
I take it you mean they do not show on the indexes or transcripts rather than they do not show on the image.
I have had a number of records open for people I have sent death certificates for and there is a delay between the image being opened and the person appearing on the transcripts and indeed on the index.
I assume it is to do with the work involved or the process involved in updating the indexes and transcripts as opposed to the image.
Cheers
Guy
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The England & Wales GRO death index is available now upto June 2017. However, I don't suppose that people from FindMyPast are sitting at any of the 7 hosts sites going through the death index after 2006 on microfiche looking for possible entries.
There are a number of companies who have access to the death index electronically (they pay a small fortune annually to get this info) for legal/fraud prevention purposes. I suspect that FindMyPast may be working either with one of them or directly with the GRO to match and confirm death entries so that records can be opened.