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Title: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: amber39 on Tuesday 29 December 15 18:32 GMT (UK)

I need help to find the death of an Englishman who reputedly died in Johannesberg  in 1922.

John Edwin Speer emigrated to South Africa with his wife Mary Anne and their son aged 9 in 1919.
His wife and son returned to England in 1922 presumably after his death.

How can I obtain the date of John's death and his death certificate ?  The date of his birth was 1883 in Battersea London

Regards  Amber39

Title: Re: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: Nookie on Wednesday 30 December 15 07:29 GMT (UK)

Here are the details of his estate file held at the archives.  You can order a copy of it through eggsa.org  It should contain a copy of the death notice, so you could just order that.

DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 48872                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          SPEER, JOHN EDWIN.                                                   
STARTING  19220000                                                             
ENDING    19220000                                                             
REMARKS   SURVIVING SPOUSE MARY ANN ELIZABETH SPEER (BORN STEWART).             

Title: Re: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: amber39 on Wednesday 30 December 15 09:09 GMT (UK)

Thank you so much Nookie for your reply and the information it contained.

My next step now is to order the copy.

Regards   Amber39

Title: Re: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: shirl27 on Saturday 05 March 16 18:45 GMT (UK)

Hi Amber
Not sure if you have managed to find out anything further on John Edwin SPEER, however I checked the burial register for Brixton Cemetery in Johannesburg and found an entry for:

Name: SPEER, Edwin
Age:   40 years
Buried: 11 May 1922
Section: English Church (Anglican)
Grave No: 6588 (bought by Mrs M A SPEER for John E SPEER and has private rights 6 Oct 1922, so most probably a gravestone).

Shirley

Title: Re: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: amber39 on Sunday 06 March 16 10:49 GMT (UK)

Hello Shirley

Thank you so much for your E mail and the information which is most helpful.
I now know  that he did die in Johannesburg and where he is buried, a big step forward.

I am most grateful.

Regards   Amber39

Title: Re: Trying to find a death in Johannesberg
Post by: Nookie on Monday 07 March 16 08:24 GMT (UK)

Morning
I have found his death notice. Unfortunately I cannot download it at the moment. However it states:
Full names John Edwin Speer died ? May 1922 age 40
Dad - John Edwin Speer
Mother Alice - married in England
Wife - Mary Ann
Child John William Speer age 13

If you look on the postings you will find a way to look at the Transvaal estates/death notices.  Look for TAB. The year you want is 1922 and the batch must contain 48872. It is image 1066 onwards.  Hope this helps.