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Title: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 12 December 15 12:01 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know of a site that helps with research of births and family history in Japan am looking for birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa born 1st JAN 1898 place unknown  Died May 1976 Pontypool, Monmouthshire any help appreceiated
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: 3sillydogs on Saturday 12 December 15 12:09 GMT (UK)

These may help you get started and point you in the right direction


https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Japan_Genealogy

http://search.ancestry.com/Places/Asia/Japan/Default.aspx

http://advantagegenealogy.com/blog/2011/02/26/how-to-obtain-your-familys-koseki-family-household-registration/

  :)
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 12 December 15 12:38 GMT (UK)
That name pops up in an Index to Alien arrivals at Canadian Atlantic and Pacific Seaports  - shows  I "Nishizawa"

St Albans Vermont - I Nishizawa aged 9 years born Japan - arriving 1907
the others listed K Nishimura aged 19 years and  San-Jiro Nishimura aged 31 years -
J Nishino aged 23 years  - N Nishitani aged 24 years
Kueranosuka Nishiyama age 26 years.

Sandra
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 12 December 15 16:04 GMT (UK)
Lovely that Sandra thanks I have very liitle on this gent only that he arrived pre 1926 pontyppol south wales and stayed the rest of his life, believed he came with an Acrobatic troop maybe circus
kitman

Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: djunna on Sunday 08 January 17 13:01 GMT (UK)
Hi, have also been trying to find out about this feller for a while, Jackie Tara arrested at the Quarry Level Riots in 1926.  Was also told he lived above the Laundry on High St and was sold to the circus.
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: kitman64 on Monday 09 January 17 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hi djunna, there is quite a bit of jnfo on jackie tara on the old Pontypool page "facebook" i'm sure you'll get more info scrolling through the posts on there
kitman
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: SteveHumph on Monday 19 February 18 19:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Kitman - i am interested in Ichitaro - know that he lived at 12 Capel St in 1939
Did you get any further with your research?
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: kitman64 on Saturday 24 February 18 11:17 GMT (UK)
No sorry hit a brick wall on this at the moment
kitman
Title: Re: Japan research
Post by: djunna on Tuesday 01 January 19 14:06 GMT (UK)
Hiya Kitman,

Re the Pontypool site, thats me putting it on there. Just trying to get together as much as i can on the man.
Title: Re: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: SteveHumph on Monday 30 September 19 21:13 BST (UK)
Hi Djunna

I am still trying to research Ichitaro Nishizawa but am hitting a brick wall in getting access to the old Pontypool site.
Title: Re: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: UKgirl on Tuesday 01 October 19 02:20 BST (UK)
Firstly, Ichitaro is a very common boy’s name.

The family name Nishizawa is also a common family name.
It is different from the family name Nishikawa/Nishigawa, which is also common.

On Ancestry:
UK, WWII Alien Internees, 1939-1945

Ichitaro Nishizawa
Japanese
Birth, 18 May 1898 (1939 Register shows 27 May 1898)
Resident
Interned 8.12.41
Monmouthshire Constabulary
Release refused 26.9.44
R.A. 24.8.45 (S.C.)
Subject to 6A & 9A

It is just a brief hand-written card, but there may be further information somewhere.
It also says H.O. No. N 7625 (a Home Office No.?)

******

Reply #2 mentions a 9-year-old boy at the St. Albans Vermont crossing who arrived in 1907. This is a record of a crossing from Canada into the US.

Family Search (free of charge to view, but must register) has the actual image for this record. Actually, there are 2 images, but they seem to refer to the same boy. Probably there was some confusion about how to write his name, and two cards were completed under different names, presumably by mistake.

1)   Image 8108 of 8204
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-L9C7-8?i=8107&cc=2185163

Manifest. Port of Vancouver B.C.
Nishigawa Ichitaro
Nationality, Japanese
Place of birth, Japan
Age, 9 years
Occupation, Actor
Read or write? No.
Last permanent residence, Niigata Ken (Niigata Prefecture)
Passage paid by Manager
Ever in the US? No
Destination, Fairbury Neb (Nebraska)
Date of Landing, 3/24/07 Monteagle (ship's name)

2)   Image 8106 of 8204
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-99DQ-L9C6-X?i=8105&cc=2185163

Manifest. Port of Vancouver
3rd class Monteagle (ship’s name) (from) Yokohama
Date 3/24/07
Nishegawa Ichetara
Nationality, Japanese
Place of birth, Niigata Ken (Niigata Prefecture), Japan
Age, 9 years
Occupation, Actor
Read or write? No
Last permanent residence, Niigata Ken (Niigata Prefecture) Japan
Ever in the US? No
Destination, Fairbury Neb (Nebraska) c/o Campbell Bro. Circus
Purpose in coming, Perm (permanent?)

The cards give the name of the prefecture, but they do not specify the name of the city. There is a city named Niigata, in Niigata Prefecture. 

Reply #2 also mentions some other names of people who accompanied him. If they are connected, you should be able to find their cards too. That may offer the name of the Manager, or some info on the other names, or the name of a city.

In Japan, there is no register of individual births, marriages & deaths. There is nothing like free BMD or the General Register Office. There is no hobby of genealogy. There is a Family Register (Koseki) for each family which is kept in the local Ward Office of a city (something like the local council offices) where a family lives. Whereas each child in the UK has their own birth certificate, with no reference to their siblings, the Family Register will list all the siblings. Every family/person must be registered in their local Ward Office. However, it is illegal for anyone to see another person’s Family Register. Only a family member can have access to it, or a lawyer. It is considered private. So even if you had an address in Japan, it would not be possible to check on this boy’s parents, without a lawyer's help. The only hope really would be if the boy/man had provided further information about his parents to the authorities in the UK or US, for some reason or another, or if a parent had accompanied him on the ship.

You can google the circus, it seems to be famous.

Anyway, I hope that this provides some answers to your mystery.
Family Search also has free access to the US census images (e.g. 1910 & 1920). Perhaps you may find him there.

Canada also provides free access to their census images online.

UKgirl
Title: Re: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: UKgirl on Tuesday 01 October 19 12:54 BST (UK)
Update:

Very short Youtube informative video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad7NyknAqAE

The Campbell Bros. Circus came to an end around 1912.

It was bought and then moved to Enid, Oklahoma.

http://www.circusesandsideshows.com/circuses/campbellbroscircus.html

UKgirl
Title: Re: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: UKgirl on Tuesday 01 October 19 14:10 BST (UK)
1907 Manifest of Passengers.
Name of ship: Monteagle

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-998T-MQ9L?i=346&cc=2185163

Another document from the Vermont border crossing showing 3 Japanese boys aged 10, 9 (Ichitaro Nishigawa) & 10, accompanied by a 51-year-old Japanese man. All 4 are listed as Actors.

The man (born in Japan) is "returning home to Fairbury, Nebraska", whereas the 3 boys are "going to" his address. It looks as if he recruited the boys while visiting Japan. The 3 boys are from different prefectures in Japan. The man paid for his own passage, but the boys' passages were paid for by their "Manager". Presumably that accompanying man must have been their Manager.

Names:
Chokichi Mizuno, 51
Jukichi Ide, 10, from Shizuoka Prefecture
Ichitaro Nishigawa, 9, from Niigata Prefecture
Shiro Watahiki, 10, from Ebarike (Ibakaki) Prefecture

Those names may help to lead to more information about your man.

Yet another document states that the man Chokichi Mizuno, aged 51, was born in Saitama Prefecture.

Perhaps you can find these names in Census documents?

UKgirl
Title: Re: Japan research birthplace of Ichitaro Nishizawa
Post by: UKgirl on Tuesday 01 October 19 16:55 BST (UK)
Moved to Manchester?

Shiro Watabiki
1922, married in Chorlton, Manchester
1939, 4, St Annes Road, Wolverhampton (born 28 Apr 1897), Labourer
1972, died Wolverhampton, Staffordshire (born 1897)

&

Chokichi Mizuno
1929, Kelly’s Directory for Manchester
No. 133, Radnor Street (occupation not listed)

UKgirl