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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: Emma Pierce on Friday 11 December 15 18:41 GMT (UK)
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Its my grandad in this photo Arthur Jenner b1926 in Shoreditch, married in 1957 in Hoxton.
No longer around but he grew up in the shoreditch and bethnal green areas.
I've done a good search on the name 'Davant' for the shop behind but cant find anything substantial.
One address comes up but it doesn't look like the same area from the photo.
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The style of the shop to the left could be Burton mens wear.
Jennifer
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There's a forum site which mentions "Davant" ?...Twelfth reply down the list .
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gnh/
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Have a look at the post office directories for that area in the 1920's and see if you can find the shop where you think the photo was taken.
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I would have said this was a 1950s photo.
Carol
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Oops! thank-you Treetotal my mistake I should not go on this site after a glass of wine. ;D
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Afraid I can't help as to where this is. But, I wonder what the small pieces of paper they are holding are for. Do you know?
Could they be collecting their demob outfits? In which case it would be local to where he lived.
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There's a forum site which mentions "Davant" ?...Twelfth reply down the list .
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gnh/
I've posted the photo in that forum and they are not sure sure it is East Ham.
Afraid I can't help as to where this is. But, I wonder what the small pieces of paper they are holding are for. Do you know?
Could they be collecting their demob outfits? In which case it would be local to where he lived.
Unfortunately I have no idea about this, but it could be something like that.
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Davant Ltd was a chain of house furnishers.
Some addresses from the 1959 phone book:
124 Middlesex Street E1
79 Brokesley Street E3
11 High Street North E6
95 High Street North E6
167 Kentish Town Road NW1
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The closest address to Shoreditch could be Middlesex Street. E6 is East Ham and NW1 Camden and E3 Mile End. I googled in Middlesex Street and there is a building with similar columns to the on behind your grandfather
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This is the Middlesex Street location on Streetview. Number 124 has been rebuilt but the building next door looks right https://goo.gl/maps/HftvsYha2vv
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This is the Middlesex Street location on Streetview. Number 124 has been rebuilt but the building next door looks right https://goo.gl/maps/HftvsYha2vv
Thanks it looks good, i guess next step would be to see if that street used to run a bus service?
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Thanks it looks good, i guess next step would be to see if that street used to run a bus service?
Yes, good idea, as there is a bus stop in the background. It's a red stop so you should check if buses ran down the possible streets you have. It is likely, in the '50s, that many bus services travelled that way as it has always been a predominantly poor + working class area so doubt people had cars.
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Thanks it looks good, i guess next step would be to see if that street used to run a bus service?
Yes, good idea, as there is a bus stop in the background. It's a red stop so you should check if buses ran down the possible streets you have. It is likely, in the '50s, that many bus services travelled that way as it has always been a predominantly poor + working class area so doubt people had cars.
According to this 1952 map route 78 stopped on this street: http://www.busmap.co.uk/Downloads/Sales/Historical/1952%20Greater%20London%20Bus%20Map.pdf
Its the most convincing location I have so far. I think i will check directory for the building either side of 'Davant' next to it to see if they match up.
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If we have the right place then your grandad is standing outside and facing the Shooting Star pub.
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If we have the right place then your grandad is standing outside and facing the Shooting Star pub.
The only thing im not so sure about, is the pub on the corner, it looks very different, obviously it may have had a facial refit. But i dont think it looks like a pub in my photo.
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There was me thinking that Davant was now Nandos. It's not. Davant was number 124 which is now Ladbrokes and another firm; then there is the Chinese at 126, then there is the Woodin's Shades pub on the corner with Bishopsgate. I think the pub looks very like the building behind the soldier in your picture.
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Afraid I can't help as to where this is. But, I wonder what the small pieces of paper they are holding are for. Do you know?
Could they be collecting their demob outfits? In which case it would be local to where he lived.
Someone else just suggested it could be demob, and/or near a demob center, i guess thats another thing to look into now!
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demob
Have you applied to MoD for his service papers?
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This picture from the London Metropolitan Archives might help you. Click and it gets bigger.
http://collage.cityoflondon.gov.uk/collage/app?service=external/Item&sp=Z49410&sp=51758&sp=X