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Title: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: MaggieTag on Thursday 03 December 15 18:01 GMT (UK)
Hi Australian Rootschatters,

James Joseph McCormick was born in Belfast to William McCormick and his wife Mary (probably Curran ).His date and place of death (as above) is recorded on his parents headstone in Milton Cemetery in Belfast.
I'm wondering if any of you good folk may have access to historical Sydney newspapers that may give more information on how James Joseph died.

Many thanks,
Maggie
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: jorose on Thursday 03 December 15 20:24 GMT (UK)
Trove is normally the first stop, didn't see him there
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper
(note - if his death wasn't 'newsworthy' and the rest of the family were back in Ireland, you might have more luck in the home papers)

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
 there is a record here, possibly him, under Intestate Estate Case Papers.  1893, James McCormick aka McCormack, died "The Hospice, Sydney", a clerk, native of Ireland.

This could refer to Sacred Heart Hospice, Sydney?  His death appears to be listed under 'McCormack' on NSW bmd, father William, mother unknown
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: rosball on Thursday 03 December 15 21:52 GMT (UK)
Possibly his funeral notice  10 May 1893 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13929780

THE FRIENDS of Mr. JAMES McCORMICK   
are respectfully invited to attend his Funeral ; to move 
from the Parramatta Hospital for the Rookwood Cemetery   
at 1 o'clock THIS DAY, Wednesday.

I will photograph the intestate file for you today

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: judb on Friday 04 December 15 04:37 GMT (UK)
There does not seem to be an entry in the NSW coroners' inquest files for this man so it's likely he died from illness, especially as the death occurred at hospital - Parramatta hospital according to the funeral notice.

Judith
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: Billyblue on Friday 04 December 15 04:55 GMT (UK)
There is a entry on RYERSON for the Sydney Morning Herald FUNERAL Notices of 12 April 1893 for a James McCORMACK Funeral that day.
You could access that via TROVE.

The 10 May 1893 James McCORMACK is also on RYERSON, from a DEATH notice.

http://srwww.records.nsw.gov.au/indexsearch/keyname.aspx
 there is a record here, possibly him, under Intestate Estate Case Papers.  1893, James McCormick aka McCormack, died "The Hospice, Sydney", a clerk, native of Ireland.

This could refer to Sacred Heart Hospice, Sydney?  His death appears to be listed under 'McCormack' on NSW bmd, father William, mother unknown

'The Hospice' indicates he was ill rather than there from an accident etc.
Given he was 19 and it was 1893, possibility he was suffering from TB?

Agree with jorose, probably Sacred Heart Hospice, Darlinghurst, Sydney.

 :'(  :'(  :'(

Dawn M
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: rosball on Friday 04 December 15 06:19 GMT (UK)
From death certificate in intestate papers ...

James McCORMICK died 11 April 1893, at Hospice for The Dying in Victoria St, Sydney.  He died of phittisis [??] and his father William McCORMICK lived at 9 Windsor Gardens Belfast.

Hang on and I will upload the photos and send you a link.

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: Neil Todd on Friday 04 December 15 06:36 GMT (UK)
As intimated prior "phittisis" TB. no Longer used Term.
actually spelt. "phthisis"
Sad end for such a young person, probably came out here to try and get over it, dry climate thing.

Neil
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: Dundee on Friday 04 December 15 07:01 GMT (UK)
Possibly his funeral notice  10 May 1893 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article13929780

THE FRIENDS of Mr. JAMES McCORMICK   
are respectfully invited to attend his Funeral ; to move 
from the Parramatta Hospital for the Rookwood Cemetery   
at 1 o'clock THIS DAY, Wednesday.

regards
   Ros

That was a different person who died in May.

There is a entry on RYERSON for the Sydney Morning Herald FUNERAL Notices of 12 April 1893 for a James McCORMACK Funeral that day.
You could access that via TROVE.

Dawn M

12 April 1893

THE FRIENDS of the late Mr. JAMES M'CORMACK are respectfully informed that his funeral will leave St. Vincent's Hospital, THIS (Wednesday) AFTERNOON, at 1.15, for Necropolis......

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/13924717

Debra  :D

Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: rosball on Friday 04 December 15 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Maggie,
   I sent you a pm with a link to the photos of the intestate file.   it has his baptismal certificate and his parents' marriage cert in there also.

regards
   Ros
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: majm on Friday 04 December 15 08:38 GMT (UK)
So the file had all three certificates ..... his baptismal, his parents marriage, and his death registration.  I wonder why a lad in the 1890s in NSW would have had a copy of his parents' marriage certificate... perhaps it had been sent from Belfast by his parents after his death, as they would have been his next of kin for any distribution of his estate. 

Well found Ros

Cheers,  JM
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: cupoflife on Friday 04 December 15 08:49 GMT (UK)
Three cheers Ros  :)
What a treasure trove to score all those certificates.

Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: Billyblue on Friday 04 December 15 09:18 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dundee for the clarification re the 2 notices indexed.
Had hoped that they were 2 different people  :P  :P

The mention of St Vincent's Hospital confirms that 'the Hospice' was Sacred Heart Hospice, Darlinghurst.

Dawn M
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: rosball on Friday 04 December 15 09:21 GMT (UK)
Well of course I should take all the credit for this ...  ;D ;D

It was Jorose who found the entry and since I was going there today I just added it to my list.

But the probate/deceased estate/intestate files are soooo variable.   One of the probate files I photographed today had only 3 pages without anything much of use (as far as I could tell).

I must admit that I just skim and click and don't really read or absorb.

I do wonder if the lady he was living with (in the best sense of the phrase) was a relative ...?  I'll have another look now.

Ros
Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: rosball on Friday 04 December 15 09:42 GMT (UK)
The lady he was living with was described as a friend -  Mrs E Thornton,  "Lor na Doon", Springwood.

Title: Re: James Joseph McCormick-Died 11April 1893 in Sydney Australia aged 19
Post by: MaggieTag on Friday 04 December 15 21:20 GMT (UK)

My Australian friends,
Thank you all so much!
The information that Ive received from you has been amazing!
I'm just totally blown away by how much information you've given me.
Rosbal, Billyblue, Cupoflife, Majm, Dundee, NellTodd, judb, jorose and Billyblue.
Many, many thanks from Belfast.